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I am just shocked, scared and feel sad about the news coming up in the media about the events happening Kerala. Children, girls and women are being molested, raped and even murdered here; it seems almost on a daily basis. Has something gone wrong about the society as a whole, I just wonder. The so called people with a hundred percent literacy and many other things to brag of are now being threatened by the antisocial, criminal and dastardly mind set up of some people around, who have trailed off the path of human culture and humane character. The question that scares me is whether this is the symptom of the decay and rot that is developing in our society as a whole. I feel that it is time for the people who are aware of this to apply their mind and act to terminate such decay.
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We know that God's own country is just a marketing slogan coined by the tourist board. Apart from that, Kerala does seem tohave a lot going for it, but it is far from perfect.

In the context of this international site, I think you need to give some more detail. Perhaps some links to specific news. Even in the next-door state, I won't be seeing the same news as you are.

Recently I have seen reporting of church child abuse. Sorry for the tired-cynic response, but my first thought was "par for the international course."
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Why would anyone believe that Kerala will have higher moral standards thanthe rest of India or other countries just because it is labelled as ‘Go Own Country’ Even a few examples will not tell the whole story. A comparison of incidences of rape and child abuseas a proportion of the population may tell you if itis worse than any other state or country but you would also have to discover whether these outrages are increasing over time to see a true picture.
As you may be aware we have had a huge rise in child abuse cases going to court in the U.K. but that does not necessarily mean there are more incidences now as many of the cases were of historic abuse. Victims appear more able to disclose about the abuse they have suffered compared to some years ago and the media is prepared to highlight these cases more regularly than perhaps in earlier years.
Please look at the situation in other states and then decide if Kerala is any better or worse.
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@Mods or OP!
Please change the title to "What went..." or "What has gone ...". At present it isn't even Indian English. It sounds more like a Hungarian au-pair.

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Some reasons are highlighted in this article: www.huffingtonpost.in/2017/02/04/why-are-kerala-s-marxists-suddenly-on-the-wrong-side-of-a-major/

What started as vote bank politics has now polarized the society and has brought in the wrong form of communism (don't ask me about the right form!). All the way to murders being used as a political tool that too frequently. Breeze through some dates and headlines at www.google.com/search?&tbm=nws&q=kerala+viole nce.

Third set of broad reasons are listed here www.quora.com/What-are-some-negative-aspects-that-you-know-about-Kerala. These reasons essentially lead to empty brains that become devil's workshop. It leads to poor remaining poor and rich folks abusing their rights. A dig is shared on Twitter here: twitter.com/amartyatalks/status/622998682607222785
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I am quoting below the reports from some of the news papers:
Hope this will show how serious the problem is. There were many cases of rape and molestation after this also, including that of a prominent Christian father trying to hide the infant he had in his relationship with a minor girl. It was disturbing to see that he had all the help nd support of his colleagues and the hospital staff. The hospital was run by some organization connected to the church.

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Despite stringent laws and awareness campaigns, as many as 910 cases of rape have been reported in Kerala in the first six months of this year, giving an indication of continuing atrocities against women in the state.

A total of 7,909 cases of crimes against women were reported across the state upto July, according to state police's crime statistics. Of them, 2332 were cases of molestation, 190 cases of eve teasing and 78 cases of kidnapping of women besides 910 cases of rape, it said. The number of rape cases reported last year was 1263, it said.

Expressing concern over the alarming figures, state Women's Commission chairperson K C Rosakkutty said awareness seminars and classes were not enough to tackle the increasing atrocities against women. Absence of fast-track courts and speedy trials are among the major challenges in dealing with rape cases, she said.

"In most of the rape cases, we fail in ensuring that the accused gets the right punishment at the right time for the gruesome crime committed.

"The delay in trials and awarding of punishments also contribute to in crease in such cases," Rosakkutty told PTI.

"Over 2, 500 rape cases reported in Kerala in 2016"

Besides rape, other crimes against women, including molestation, kidnapping, dowry death and cruelty by husbands/relatives, also showed an upward trend last year. (Representational)
A total of 16,960 cases of crime against women and children, including 2,568 rapes, have been reported in the last one year in Kerala. The state was recently rocked by the alleged abduction and harassment of a noted South Indian actress by a gang near Kochi. According to the state police’s provisional crime statistics, of the total rape cases, women were victims in 1,644 incidents while children in 924 reported cases across the state in 2016, compared to 1,263 and 720 in 2015 respectively.
Of the total crimes against women and children, 14,061 were against women and 2,899 against children, it said. The number of cases registered under Protection of Children from Sexual Offenses Act (POCSO) during the period was 2,093, it said. Besides rape, other crimes against women, including molestation, kidnapping, dowry death and cruelty by husbands/relatives, also showed an upward trend last year.

By the way I am aware of the fact that "God's own...." is just a slogan coined by the Tourism department to market Kerala, highlighting the natural beauty of Kerala and it is least connected with the life of the people in Kerala.
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Your post may be helpful to those who have no idea. Even I found the numbers shocking, although it is difficult to interpret...

Kerala is one of the smallest states, right? One of the smallest populations?

I wonder how it compares with others.

I wonder if reporting/policing might be better in Kerala?

... None of this is to suggest that even one case is not to many.
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Not all reports are true. At least 10% are fabricated.*

I know the number is still shocking.

* I say this because many years ago I gave a carpenter Rs7000 as part payment to make a bed for me. He agreed took the money and started jerking me around. I went to his local station to file a complaint, and the officer in charge said he is well known for this type of crap.

He also said if I file a complaint he usually brings his wife in the next day to say I abused/molested her. As the law stands the police hace to act upon it.
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Let's take a step back and also read/watch these on rape in India:



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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post I went to his local station to file a complaint, and the officer in charge said he is well known for this type of crap.

He also said if I file a complaint he usually brings his wife in the next day to say I abused/molested her. As the law stands the police hace to act upon it.
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Let's take a step back and also read/watch these on rape in India:
I didn't watch the video. However, it seems it was based on an article in The Hindu, which I think I did read. The false reports, and the manipulation of daughters by parents, are almost as evil as rape itself.
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One problem I see in Kerala is that the man, woman relationship in Kerala generally cannot be said to be really healthy. In spite of being advanced educationally , there is a sort of over sensitivity and anxiety about sex. If you get into crowded bus you can see men and women standing closely touching or even pressing bodies as they have no choice. But the same men and women are not willing to sit together in the same seat and the moment one sits near an empty seat near a women, we can see the woman jumping up and leaving the seat most of the time; there is a sort of hypocrisy which dominates man woman relationship in Kerala. I have not seen this sort of attitude any where in India and nobody is bothered about sharing of seats in bus or train. In general there is a sort of puritanical attitude outwardly , though inwardly it is not there and men generally treat women not as individuals but just as sex objects. As there is a sort of over political sensitivity in Kerala the same is true about sex also. There is a lot of change, but not enough I feel. Real healthy friendship among girls and boys can be seen now, though not enough; but there is a generation which cannot accept this and the incidents that happen are used to justify this attitude. Most of the readers might have heard about the moral policing cases in Kerala. I think that more than youngsters it is the older ones who are involved in cases of rapes; yet to get the details of the cases to understand this fully. I may be wrong and I expect to be corrected if I am.
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They are communists!
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What? Did someone say something?
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Originally Posted by professorm View Post They are communists!
Sorry to say that this is a very immature and superficial assessment. The statement is against facts and communism-I am not a communist- has got nothing to do with the situation. Communists are not a majority party in Kerala and always a leftist government is a group of some parties, including communists. Any way the political aspect is immaterial here and the crimes have been on the increase for the last few years, even when the communist led government was not there.

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The most reasonable response to that statement
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The bus/train instances happen in Tamil Nadu also.

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