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#16 Nov 8th, 2007, 14:03
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It is true butterball , but it is closed for maintenance now .
They suggest the woodys. But in Jose Junction you have more choices now , The Thandoor and Chilly Restaurant , Grant Hotel , Hotel Curry leaf and another North Indian one on the corner first floor
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Good Food

haritha, you mentioned Grant Hotel,did you mean Grand Hotel.

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Grand Hotel for a Syrian Christian Thali Meals with fish
prawns and beef with coconut chips
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Originally Posted by haritha View Post Grand Hotel for a Syrian Christian Thali Meals with fish
prawns and beef with coconut chips
...sounds delish! I've never really found many fish thalis.. What's the Syrian connection?
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festive lunch of syrian christians

Festive lunch of syrian christians in Kerala comprises of some vegetables , Spiced yogurt, meat and fish preparations.
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The Syrian Christians in Kerala are the ones that claim their church dates back to the arrival of St Thomas in India in the early years of this era, pre-dating European missionaries by a millennia or two!
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Simple Question

Good day haritha,

I'll ask again,Did you mean Grand Hotel INSTEAD
of Grant Hotel.

Is there a Grant Hotel ?

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Swapping some books and buying some at Saraswati's Book Shop (is the lovely Shaxil still one of the booksellers there?)before having lunch and start reading at Kashi's were two of my favourite things in Fort Cochin in July/August 2000/2001 and 2003. Returning there next July to show this place to my daughter on her first trip to/in India is one of the things to really look forward to.
In 2000 I ate for lunch at the seafront near the nets gigantic prawns that I bought from some fish monger (far too expensive) opposite some simple food stall, where a young man called Mowgli cooked them to perfection. In 2003 the place was upgraded, the small square with stalls had new pavement and it lost some of its picturesque quality. Curious how it looks nowadays...btw, Mowgli approached me the same evening in 2000 when I strolled along the same stalls and apologized for the cheating with the weight of the prawns (which I suspected but not fully realized)till then. We drank a cola over it and played a game of chess: I won, my sweet revenge.
Wondering what will happen at dinner time in July 2008

Opposite a small park for children and on the sea front there was a place (at least till August 2003) where kathakali and sitar/tabla performances were given in a somewhat dilapidated but atmospheric "theatre" with the sounds of fishermen and water in the background. A friendly man on a bicycle handed out flyers during the day for those evening events. NEXT to the performance hall, one could eat grilled fish from a huge specimen, grilled just outside the more or less open air restaurant with a palm leaf roof (I guess it was palm). I hope both the places still exist. Fish and play were both very good.
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we r 3 tourists to explor kochin in coming Jan.pure vegeterian

(no egges tooo) any sugestions?
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Not really, except that eating veganistic won't be all that easy I think. Skipping the dairy is easy in India as it's not used very much anyway (just skip the egg dishes indeed, as well as the curd (yoghurt), usually served separately, and the paneer (soft cheese), and the lassis (yoghurt drinks); to order tea (chai) without milk, you might try saying "dudh ney" (no milk), but I'm not sure if that would work. (Help us out here guys: How does one order black tea? Tea is commonly cooked with milk in any case. Ordering "tray tea" should result in having the milk served separately I think, but you won't get this from street vendors or simple eateries, it's more common in somewhat classier restaurants.) It's mostly that most food gets fried in ghee (clarified butter) however. I wouldn't know how to get around that, certainly not without some decent skills in whatever local language is spoken, so maybe better to just accept it for the time being.

Other than that, India is a vegetarian's paradise, but not a vegan's I guess. Note that restaurants are classed as veg or non-veg; you can eat vegetarian at both, but besides serving meat dishes as well the latter may or may not serve alcohol, the former won't (or that is my understanding, anyway).
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we hed hard time loking for food in Leh last august...nothing... would u beleive ?momo ..good one in the market..i'm goign to open one ... ok..we didnt hav problem in himachal.uttar.Del...pls local..help us in kerala with advice....
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Originally Posted by machadinha View Post .... most food gets fried in ghee (clarified butter).
Hmm, I am fairly certain this is not correct. Not only is Kerala the land of vegetable oil, coconut oil in particular, but we always (being vegan) ask, when in doubt, whether the food was cooked in ghee or oil, and the answer is always "oil". It makes good sense as well considering that the South Indian cuisine is based around the coconut, and that ghee is more expensive than oil.

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It is easy. Speak English.

Overall, our experience is that it is very easy to be vegan when eating out in South India.
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ok..thanx so far it looks better...

so general idea is ...no problem finding vegan food in the south..any specific places? "surviving" two weeks in tamil nadu and kerala will be new experience..promise wen i'll b back to put names on de board...
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Thanks for the clarification, Pundabee, and good to hear a vegan speaking out of experience. Maybe you could do a thread: "How to get around in India as a vegan" I'm not even really kidding.

I hadn't realized about the vegetable oil, that's a good point, and would solve it all. Wonder if that would be the case up north, or even everywhere down south. I just don't know.

As for languages and having any more complex dietary wishes, I guess it depends on your level of off-the-trackness and so on (not that I went native or anything, far fom it. But I guess even on the tourist trail it may depend on what establishments one frequents.) I generally found English far less commonly (or if so, understandably, to a Westerner) spoken there than many seem to expect, or than guidebooks etc. would seem to suggest. So explaining can I not have this but rather that would seem tricky to me; this is usually tricky in any foreign country.

But anyway, it's good to hear affirmation that to you it's no problem.
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Lady and cigars

Well, smoking cigars is not exactly haute cuisine (or low, for that matter), but a few of my synaesthetic experiences in Fort Cochin/Matancherry had to do with it. In Saraswaty Booksellers in Fort Cochin (there is/was one in Matancherry as well...do they both still exist?) I one day met an old English lady who organized or matronized or just propagated a place between FC and M where small performances and readings/lectures were held by I think mostly Indian artists. She invited me and when I arrived at the place she sat there in the back room on cushions on the bamboo mat floor, smoking a cigar. In those days (about 2002) I always had my Olifant sigaren, an excellent Dutch brand, with me and I was lucky to offer the lady one of mine. We smoked our cigars, drank some tea and later on listened and watched an Indian painter who worked mainly or only on paper the size of postcards. His English was almost incomprehensible, he mumbled and seemed rather shy, but his small paintings were very lovely and interesting. Stupid enough I forgot to write down his name.
Maybe some other Cochin lover could give me that information?

Futhermore I would like it if this thread will be spun to a greater length on the subject of all our senses involved in enjoying Fort Cochin.
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