Bangalore - Mangalore Train Service

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#1 Nov 24th, 2005, 00:00
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After almost a decade a goods train chugged off between Sakleshpur and Subrahmanya on Tuesday November 22 evening. This indeed is a good sign for all who are expecting the resuming of train service between Mangalore and Bangalore.

The rail service between the capital and Mangalore had been called off owing to gauge conversion work in 1997. But due to the sheer negligence by the union government the work went on at a snailís pace until 2002. However, thereafter, there has been significant turnaround in the pace of the work and a lot of ground too has been covered in resuming the rail service. Recently, rail service has been resumed between Mangalore and Subrahmanya. So far the only obstacle that remained was work between Subrahmanya and Sakleshpur. Now with the chugging of goods train on the route, the future seems to be bright for commuters between Mangalore and Bangalore.

The goods train on Tuesday had 4 wagons. The train started in the evening from Sakleshpur and reached Subrahmanya at 10 in the night. This means that the gauge conversion work is over and soon the route will be thrown open to the public.
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That's great news.

The journey from Mangalore to Hassan is said to be a scenic route, did you travel this route before 97?
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Originally Posted by steven_ber That's great news.

The journey from Mangalore to Hassan is said to be a scenic route, did you travel this route before 97?
Yup. Quite a few times. The ride between Sakleshpur & Subramanya is perhaps the best. Done it once when steam MG was around. Mindblowing experience...
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Dear Prof.Aranha,
Thanks for the ""excellent"" news.
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In any case, the Trains 6515/6516 and 6517/6518 are already waiting to get inaugurated.
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25.11.2005/10.55 hrs.
#5 Nov 25th, 2005, 23:26
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 Dear Prof.Aranha,
Thanks for the ""excellent"" news.
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In any case, the Trains 6515/6516 and 6517/6518 are already waiting to get inaugurated.
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25.11.2005/10.55 hrs.
That's the problem.......inaugurating it!
The politicians are going to mess it up.
There will be 3 trains on this route
A. Mangalore - Shravanabelogola Passenger via Hassan
B. Mangalore - Yeswanthpur Express Via Hassan and Arsikere
C. Mangalore - Yeswanthpur Express Via Hassan and Mysore.

Passenger trains are being operated from Mangalore to Puttur and Subramanya Road.
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#6 Dec 11th, 2005, 19:03
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The Inauguration of the Mangalore - Bangalore railway line (via Hassan) is scheduled for Jan 2006.

But reliable sources say that this may not happen. The railway minister is in a foul mood. He is sulking as his political outfit lost elections in Bihar and his wife had to step down as Chief Minister. Cajoling the 'buffoon' to make it to the south to inaugurate this important railway link is supposedly 'daunting'.
#7 Jan 12th, 2006, 14:55
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Goods Train Resumed between Sakleshpur-Subrahmanya on Trial Basis

It is now quite evident that train service between Subrahmanya and Sakleshpur, on the Mangalore-Hassan railway line, which was put on hold for the last 8 years will soon be resumed. A lot of positive signs are being shown in this regard by the departments and officials concerned. This augurs well as it gives hope that the much-awaited and anticipated train service between Bangalore and Mangalore too will be resumed.

This hope received a major boost on Wednesday January 11 when a goods train chugged off between Subrahmnya and Sakleshpur.

A double engine - 40 wagon train with 1,100 tons of load left Sakleshpur at 8.30 in the morning and reached Subrahmanya at 12.30 pm. Thereafter, the same train left back to Sakleshpur at 1.15 pm and reached at 4.45 pm.

Later speaking to the reporters, assistant engineer Rajgopal said that goods trains with a load up to 3,800 tones of load would continue to ply on the route from Thursday January 12.

With this a major hurdle in resuming the Bangalore - Mangalore train service has been cleared and one can hope to travel by train to the state capital in the near future.
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Dear Prof.Lionel,
Your observation:-
""and one can hope to travel by train to the state capital in the near future.""
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@@@Could this be before Mahamastabhiskeka Ceremony in Sravana Belagola which is scheduled on 22nd February,2006?
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 Dear Prof.Lionel,
Your observation:-
""and one can hope to travel by train to the state capital in the near future.""
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@@@Could this be before Mahamastabhiskeka Ceremony in Sravana Belagola which is scheduled on 22nd February,2006?
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12.1.2006/16.50 hrs.
I guess all the rush is only for the Ceremony. I wish they could have these ceremonies at regular intervals so that things could fall into place......
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The much awaited Bangalore-mangalore passenger train service is yet to start. Thanks to the Railways.The railway minister had promised that the passenger services would start before Mahamastakabhisheka at Shravanabelagola .Did he mean the next Mahamastakabhisheka ?. It is real shame that it takes more than 10 years for a guage conversion. It has been almost a year that the goods train started in this route. Even now the safety dept is yet to give the green signal for passenger trains. Why is it being delayed so much??? If this is not a sheer example of neglecting a state,what would the railway minister want to name it as ?

The centre maintained Highways in the state are in pathetic conditions. Its good not to talk about NH linking Bangalore and Mangalore. The major link between the two cities have turned merely to a mud road with the steel laid long ago peeping out .Its high time the centre hands over the highway maintainance to the State Govt. Though they have released some amount (peanuts) for the repair work , the work is going on in the snail pace . Its obvious that the rains and highly loaded iron ore trucks are causing the damage to the roads.But one should note that the repair work was not done in the previous year due to which the NH has reached such a drastic condtion. NH48 is one more example of step motherly treatment given to the state.
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Has anyone posting on this thread given thought to the fact that the railways are dragging their feet on the inauguration of the Bangalore-Mangalore passenger service beyond a reasonable length of time?
Well, I have a certain theory, which for all its plausibility, may well be just that - a theory. The Bangalore-Mangalore sector is one of the most profitable ones for the innumerable private bus services - hitech, airbus, volvos, sleepers and what have you...On any given day (or night rather) you can find an interminable number of buses plying the route in both directions. And most of them running full.
Can you imagine the impact that a passenger train service would have on this lucrative business? A passenger overnight train with a standard complement of about 10 reserved 2nd class sleeper coaches, 2 coaches of 3 tier AC and maybe 1 coach of 2 tier AC, can pull the rug from under the feet of the influential and money making private bus services.
Just how lucrative this particular route is can be gauged from the fact that Volvo AC buses, until recently, used to charge anywhere between Rs 550-650 per seat. With seasonal pressure and consumer hue and cry or maybe because of other reasons (which i dont know about), the prices came down to Rs 400 per seat levels very recently.
With all the above factors, I would not be surprised if the private bus operators lobby the government channels to put off the inauguration as far away as possible in time....conspiracy theorists, anyone? :-)
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I used to think that too. But reports in the press indicate that the safety commissioner is dragging his foot in certifying the track for passenger traffic. I believe certain sections of the track are on loose soil.

Even given the above, I don't know why it cannot be publicly declared safe or unsafe and let people make their own decisions.
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Originally Posted by bcpai77 Has anyone posting on this thread given thought to the fact that the railways are dragging their feet on the inauguration of the Bangalore-Mangalore passenger service beyond a reasonable length of time?
Well, I have a certain theory, which for all its plausibility, may well be just that - a theory. The Bangalore-Mangalore sector is one of the most profitable ones for the innumerable private bus services - hitech, airbus, volvos, sleepers and what have you...On any given day (or night rather) you can find an interminable number of buses plying the route in both directions. And most of them running full.
Can you imagine the impact that a passenger train service would have on this lucrative business? A passenger overnight train with a standard complement of about 10 reserved 2nd class sleeper coaches, 2 coaches of 3 tier AC and maybe 1 coach of 2 tier AC, can pull the rug from under the feet of the influential and money making private bus services.
Just how lucrative this particular route is can be gauged from the fact that Volvo AC buses, until recently, used to charge anywhere between Rs 550-650 per seat. With seasonal pressure and consumer hue and cry or maybe because of other reasons (which i dont know about), the prices came down to Rs 400 per seat levels very recently.
With all the above factors, I would not be surprised if the private bus operators lobby the government channels to put off the inauguration as far away as possible in time....conspiracy theorists, anyone? :-)
you missed oil tankers. they are part of the same lobby.
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Originally Posted by Digital Drifter I used to think that too. But reports in the press indicate that the safety commissioner is dragging his foot in certifying the track for passenger traffic. I believe certain sections of the track are on loose soil.

Even given the above, I don't know why it cannot be publicly declared safe or unsafe and let people make their own decisions.
It's worrying that this section has yet to be passed as safe, yet freight trains are allowed run, and I'd assume a fully loaded freight train must be 3-4 times the weight of a passenger train.

I suspect the people in this region voted for the wrong political party some 10 years ago and they're still paying the price.

Speaking of safety....

On my first India trip, I was waiting for a train on Trivandrum Central station and I was looking at the track, one of the rails should have had about 10 clips holding it to the sleeper, only 2 of these clips were attached.
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Originally Posted by steven_ber It's worrying that this section has yet to be passed as safe, yet freight trains are allowed run, and I'd assume a fully loaded freight train must be 3-4 times the weight of a passenger train.
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point being in freight, the loss of life is limited and the freight money is pretty much guaranteed once you have a contract to deliver coal/ore/stuff. Damned difficult to steal those when there is an accident.

I'd guess , since passenger trains travel at a higher speed than freight, there could be a problem with vibrations?

Maybe.
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