the amazing "kaa kaa" boulder in Kashmir?

earth.anon · Apr 12th, 2008, 22:25

Hello. Almost 30 years ago, on a family vacation to Kashmir, we had stopped to check out this phenomenon that we had heard about but didn't believe it would be true. Somewhere off the highway between Jammu and Srinagar, there was a temple in a large courtyard - peaceful, not at all touristy - just there to support the local village. In the courtyard was a big boulder I am guessing about 3 feet across and 1 or 2 feet high? heavy, for sure! We were told that if you get 11 people (even kids) - no more, no less. And everyone put their index finger on the underside of the rock and in unison repeat the word "kaa" and raise the rock.

We arrived as skeptics - with my engineer dad conducting the experiment flawlessly, noting all variables and conditions. We gathered some people to count up to eleven - including other kids (I was only 10 and my brother 14).

And by golly, we lifted that boulder up over our heads (at least my head) like it was weightless! We stayed and experimented - what if we say "maa maa" or anything else. Nope. What if we had 10 people - nope. I remember one person stopped saying kaa and the boulder started to feel heavy and fell down.

I know it works cause I was there - and so were others in my family - and we all recall it vividly.

I have not found any information on the net on this wonderful phenomenon. Just wondering if anyone has ever heard of or experienced this as well? Apparently, there is another boulder like this somewhere near Pune where its in a mosque and you need 9 people and you say "qamar ali darve-----sh".

machadinha · Apr 12th, 2008, 23:08

No idea, but it's a great story alright

edwardseco · Apr 13th, 2008, 00:32

Just a few days late. Was more appropriate on April 1 like when I announced a great new investment opportunity: US Real Estate..

PeakXV · Apr 13th, 2008, 00:39

Well - those Kashmiris always have been masters in the papier mache handicraft.

edwardseco · Apr 13th, 2008, 00:55

Quote:

those Kashmiris always have been masters in the papier mache

Great quip!!

earth.anon · Apr 13th, 2008, 20:22

well .... :-) the quips got me more motivated and I did find something on the net about the other place I mention above - an article, pictures and even a video! am not fibbing, guys...

http://www.margaretdeefholts.com/lev...-shivapur.html

PeakXV · Apr 13th, 2008, 20:49

I'm afraid that this is but one giant & very stale idli that they are struggling with. Best to get these weaklings on a higher protein diet.

machadinha · Apr 14th, 2008, 02:25

You'll realize the whole thing concurs with certain theories on how the Egyptian pyramids and European dolmens and so on were built.

It's interesting alright, or at least to know that such notions are more universal even than I'd thought.

SitaParityaga · Apr 14th, 2008, 07:13

earth.anon, you said you were on a family vacation in Kashmir, yet this link to the article you provided is about Shivapur, outside of Mumbai.

Whats up with that?

machadinha · Apr 14th, 2008, 07:40

psst Sita:

Quote:

Originally Posted by earth.anon

Apparently, there is another boulder like this somewhere near Pune where its in a mosque and you need 9 people and you say "qamar ali darve-----sh"

edwardseco · Apr 14th, 2008, 07:54

Quote:

-----sh

What was that last word you must utter to hoist a big rock. I think I did this one time. I was hauling a big refrigerator down the stairs and it broke loose. It pinned me smack into the railing and I uttered a few words evidently including the "sh". A few of my neighbors magically lifted that immensely heavy object off me. During a later chest X-ray a doc asked me how I broke two ribs. I told him, you wouldn't believe it..

machadinha · Apr 14th, 2008, 07:59

LOL. I likewise usually go sh* when lifting something that's too heavy for me. (Possibly invoking some deity in the process, come to think of it.) (To go ka-ka on the other hand... Hey, no wonder I don't go around constructing dolmens.)

Nice neighbors, though, Ed

I guess they weren't too orthodox then?

I reckon the chap in question was a derwish (darvesh) btw. Don't ask me about the exhalated pronunciation given here, but maybe with all that lifting this becomes D-aar-veeeeeee...sh!!!

SitaParityaga · Apr 14th, 2008, 09:26

Hi Mach!

OK..you need 11 for one rock and 9 for the other?

machadinha · Apr 14th, 2008, 10:11

No idea. What's funny is that index finger is something that seems common in such theories. Why the pinky doesn't count -- don't ask me.

Maybe the idea is if you can pick your nose with it -- oh, whatever.

Dilliwala · Jun 6th, 2008, 18:55

You do manage to find these little tucked-away places don't you, Jay?

Show the non-believers your latest video from Kumaon.

Must check it out myself sometime.

Apr 12th, 2008, 22:25	#1
earth.anon Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: boston Posts: 71	the amazing "kaa kaa" boulder in Kashmir? Hello. Almost 30 years ago, on a family vacation to Kashmir, we had stopped to check out this phenomenon that we had heard about but didn't believe it would be true. Somewhere off the highway between Jammu and Srinagar, there was a temple in a large courtyard - peaceful, not at all touristy - just there to support the local village. In the courtyard was a big boulder I am guessing about 3 feet across and 1 or 2 feet high? heavy, for sure! We were told that if you get 11 people (even kids) - no more, no less. And everyone put their index finger on the underside of the rock and in unison repeat the word "kaa" and raise the rock. We arrived as skeptics - with my engineer dad conducting the experiment flawlessly, noting all variables and conditions. We gathered some people to count up to eleven - including other kids (I was only 10 and my brother 14). And by golly, we lifted that boulder up over our heads (at least my head) like it was weightless! We stayed and experimented - what if we say "maa maa" or anything else. Nope. What if we had 10 people - nope. I remember one person stopped saying kaa and the boulder started to feel heavy and fell down. I know it works cause I was there - and so were others in my family - and we all recall it vividly. I have not found any information on the net on this wonderful phenomenon. Just wondering if anyone has ever heard of or experienced this as well? Apparently, there is another boulder like this somewhere near Pune where its in a mosque and you need 9 people and you say "qamar ali darve-----sh". __________________ 'I wish I was a headlight on a Northbound train'

Apr 12th, 2008, 23:08	#2
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 9,427	No idea, but it's a great story alright __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

Apr 13th, 2008, 00:39	#4
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 3,783	Well - those Kashmiris always have been masters in the papier mache handicraft. __________________ We shall not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started ...and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

Apr 13th, 2008, 20:49	#7
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 3,783	I'm afraid that this is but one giant & very stale idli that they are struggling with. Best to get these weaklings on a higher protein diet. Last edited by PeakXV : Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:01.

Apr 14th, 2008, 07:59	#12
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 9,427	LOL. I likewise usually go sh* when lifting something that's too heavy for me. (Possibly invoking some deity in the process, come to think of it.) (To go ka-ka on the other hand... Hey, no wonder I don't go around constructing dolmens.) Nice neighbors, though, Ed I guess they weren't too orthodox then? I reckon the chap in question was a derwish (darvesh) btw. Don't ask me about the exhalated pronunciation given here, but maybe with all that lifting this becomes D-aar-veeeeeee...sh!!! Last edited by machadinha : Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:20.

Apr 13th, 2008, 00:32	#3
edwardseco Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Land that shakes and bakes. Posts: 3,582	Just a few days late. Was more appropriate on April 1 like when I announced a great new investment opportunity: US Real Estate..

Apr 13th, 2008, 20:22	#6
earth.anon Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: boston Posts: 71	well .... :-) the quips got me more motivated and I did find something on the net about the other place I mention above - an article, pictures and even a video! am not fibbing, guys... http://www.margaretdeefholts.com/lev...-shivapur.html

Apr 14th, 2008, 02:25	#8
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 9,427	You'll realize the whole thing concurs with certain theories on how the Egyptian pyramids and European dolmens and so on were built. It's interesting alright, or at least to know that such notions are more universal even than I'd thought.

Apr 14th, 2008, 07:13	#9
SitaParityaga member in the forest Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 852	earth.anon, you said you were on a family vacation in Kashmir, yet this link to the article you provided is about Shivapur, outside of Mumbai. Whats up with that?

Apr 14th, 2008, 09:26	#13
SitaParityaga member in the forest Join Date: May 2003 Location: California Posts: 852	Hi Mach! OK..you need 11 for one rock and 9 for the other?

Apr 14th, 2008, 10:11	#14
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 9,427	No idea. What's funny is that index finger is something that seems common in such theories. Why the pinky doesn't count -- don't ask me. Maybe the idea is if you can pick your nose with it -- oh, whatever.

Jun 6th, 2008, 18:55	#15
Dilliwala Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dilli Posts: 2,889	You do manage to find these little tucked-away places don't you, Jay? Show the non-believers your latest video from Kumaon. Must check it out myself sometime.

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