The Airport Inquisition

Brisso · Nov 16th, 2007, 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey S

there is a large number of people both outside and inside our borders who want only to kill us. Unfortunately, this is the price we pay.

and a pile of reds under the bed!

Nick-H · Nov 16th, 2007, 12:06

I think this site is haunted. I keep hearing Brisso's voice.

Scary!

Mickey... nobody minds proper security. Nobody minds proper safety regulations.

Everybody minds just-for-show we-have-to-look-as-if-we're-taking-effective-precautions nonsense, especially when it is used as a pretext to badger, bully and intimidate people who just want to travel.

If you think it is feasible to create an explosive in the toilet of an aircraft from a few liquids you brought in your hand baggage, google results will disillusion you. It's all nonsense.

Did you know that, in America, children are being denied flights because they happen to have the same name as somebody else on some list?

We need protection and security. So much nonsense activity makes me wonder how much real protection there is --- and that worries me. Sacking the lot of them, and employ some people with common sense and knowledge might help. But that won't happen because the people who like this sort of personal power now have it, and will hold onto it.

Did you hear that USA's TSA staff received an email recently warning them that the should be particularly on the lookout for federal agents testing them by trying to bring stuff through? Brilliant, eh?

And the Brits, who used to have some spirit, have been trodden into the ground by a couple of generations of speed cameras and parking tickets, and will now meekly accept whatever is doled out to us. Very sad.

There is no common sense any longer: it has been killed by marketing and consultancy.

capt_mahajan · Nov 16th, 2007, 12:20

Quote:

Did you hear that USA's TSA staff received an email recently warning them that the should be particularly on the lookout for federal agents testing them by trying to bring stuff through? Brilliant, eh?

They did.

Maybe they need a 54th question

Bomb Parts Are Smuggled Past U.S. Airport Security

Quote:

Nov. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Investigators smuggled liquid explosives and other materials to make improvised bombs past 19 U.S. airport checkpoints in a congressional study that exposed a vulnerability of airlines to terrorist attacks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Fag&refer=home

Sama · Nov 16th, 2007, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

Did you know that, in America, children are being denied flights because they happen to have the same name as somebody else on some list??

yeah, and they are actually being kicked off planes because they don't shut up or for coughing too much...maybe the seat kickers will be next...

ok, parents, I'm kidding. calm down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

Did you hear that USA's TSA staff received an email recently warning them that the should be particularly on the lookout for federal agents testing them by trying to bring stuff through? Brilliant, eh?

true story: my friend's 80 year old father was going through security and I guess the old man looked like a terrorist so they decided to search him. they told him to take off his belt, and his pants fell down.

so here's a skinny old man standing with his pants down around his ankles. this is a man who IS A DECORATED WWII WAR HERO STANDING IN PUBLIC AT AN AIRPORT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN AROUND HIS ANKLES BEING SEARCHED BY TSA GOONS.

if that had been my father they would have had to call the federal air marshals to taser me.

capt_mahajan · Nov 16th, 2007, 12:30

On the funny side, thats exactly what I told the guy in Philadelphia a year and a half or so ago.. what if my pants fall down?

On a serious note, this stinks, and I very well know the feeling.

When working, I have the responsibility to bring in a pretty big ship right into US ports. Even if the last port of call was a country with terrorist links, and we know what that can mean.

But when I step ashore, I am often treated like a suspect unless proven otherwise. Time and again.

A friend of mine, a US citizen and a decorated Vietnam Vet, quit and lived in Indonesia ten or more years ago, even then he didnt like the way he was being treated at home.

Sad.

midlifetravel · Dec 7th, 2007, 13:26

Reminds me off the huge form you used to have (still do?) fill in at an Indian Hotel - name of father, visa # date of arrival in India relationship with partner etc etc etc -the worst when you are behind someone who actually gets their passport out to write down all the info correctly ROTFL!

Nick-H · Dec 7th, 2007, 14:03

Is it that big? I usually find the hotel people fill it in for me.

Curiously, I think I must have 'resident' stamped on my head in invisible ink that can be seen only by hotel people, as they never even show me the form these days.

Or maybe it's because that's what I put in their book

!

Yogagal: I'm all for children being thrown off planes for the reasons you mention

See this for the latest TSA debacle

Nov 16th, 2007, 12:06	#17
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,853	I think this site is haunted. I keep hearing Brisso's voice. Scary! Mickey... nobody minds proper security. Nobody minds proper safety regulations. Everybody minds just-for-show we-have-to-look-as-if-we're-taking-effective-precautions nonsense, especially when it is used as a pretext to badger, bully and intimidate people who just want to travel. If you think it is feasible to create an explosive in the toilet of an aircraft from a few liquids you brought in your hand baggage, google results will disillusion you. It's all nonsense. Did you know that, in America, children are being denied flights because they happen to have the same name as somebody else on some list? We need protection and security. So much nonsense activity makes me wonder how much real protection there is --- and that worries me. Sacking the lot of them, and employ some people with common sense and knowledge might help. But that won't happen because the people who like this sort of personal power now have it, and will hold onto it. Did you hear that USA's TSA staff received an email recently warning them that the should be particularly on the lookout for federal agents testing them by trying to bring stuff through? Brilliant, eh? And the Brits, who used to have some spirit, have been trodden into the ground by a couple of generations of speed cameras and parking tickets, and will now meekly accept whatever is doled out to us. Very sad. There is no common sense any longer: it has been killed by marketing and consultancy. __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team

Dec 7th, 2007, 13:26	#21
midlifetravel Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 15	Reminds me off the huge form you used to have (still do?) fill in at an Indian Hotel - name of father, visa # date of arrival in India relationship with partner etc etc etc -the worst when you are behind someone who actually gets their passport out to write down all the info correctly ROTFL! __________________ Lis Packing Tips

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capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 9,753	On the funny side, thats exactly what I told the guy in Philadelphia a year and a half or so ago.. what if my pants fall down? On a serious note, this stinks, and I very well know the feeling. When working, I have the responsibility to bring in a pretty big ship right into US ports. Even if the last port of call was a country with terrorist links, and we know what that can mean. But when I step ashore, I am often treated like a suspect unless proven otherwise. Time and again. A friend of mine, a US citizen and a decorated Vietnam Vet, quit and lived in Indonesia ten or more years ago, even then he didnt like the way he was being treated at home. Sad.

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Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 25,853	Is it that big? I usually find the hotel people fill it in for me. Curiously, I think I must have 'resident' stamped on my head in invisible ink that can be seen only by hotel people, as they never even show me the form these days. Or maybe it's because that's what I put in their book ! Yogagal: I'm all for children being thrown off planes for the reasons you mention See this for the latest TSA debacle

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