Amsterdam - Goa? Charters? Where? How?

birds · Jun 27th, 2007, 04:30

Hi All,

I am trying to find a charter that flies from the Netherlands to Goa direct. Any suggestions?

On the web I found a press release saying Arkefly would do this but on their website I can not find anything about it.

If there are no direct flights from the Netherlands, I guess the other two options are Germany with Condor but that seem as expensive as a ticket with a normal airline via either Mumbai or Delhi. The other option is via the UK, correct?

Are there any others? Can anybody recommend a certain charter from any European country?

Thanks a lot for any suggestions.

machadinha · Jun 27th, 2007, 04:44

Member Barn recently came up with this http://www.amadeus.net/home/index_toplevel.htm , looked pretty decent to me

steven_ber · Jun 27th, 2007, 04:46

I think you already have a place to stay in Goa, is that correct?

There are sometimes some good charter deals at the very start or the very end of the season, but other than that I think the Mumbai option is normally the cheapest (and most flexible).

TracyB · Jun 27th, 2007, 11:37

I just booked KLM..Amsterdam to Mumbai and will take a Jet Airways flight to Goa the following morning..It was the best option i could find...although i live in Canada..

birds · Jun 27th, 2007, 13:06

Thanks for the suggestions.

The flight is for my elderly mother (if she reads this she will never speak to me again

) and I was hoping that I could save her a stop-over. Her trip would be from early February until the end of the month, so during the tourist season I thought there may be some charters

But if it is not possible I probably will have to I pick her up in Mumbai.

One day, I will convince Vijay Mallya that a regular Kingfisher flight Nice - Goa would be great as he has houses at both ends, it would bring in all the Russians who holiday at both places and would suit me too

.

goangoangone · Jun 27th, 2007, 14:53

Probably cheaper to fly from London.

steven_ber · Jun 27th, 2007, 16:09

Let me know if your mother is traveling through London, I know the transport options really well and can suggest the easiest route/connections between airports.

The main problem with London is that the budget flights normally arrive at the smaller airports, but the (long distance) International flights depart from either Heathrow or Gatwick.

If traveling via London, also consider Stanstead and Luton airports if you can get a really good price.

Luton to Gatwick is very easy, a direct train.
Luton to Heathrow - one change, including stairs.
Stanstead to Gatwick - 2 changes, including stairs.
Stanstead to Heathrow - 2 changes, including stairs, though one of the changes is just a 10 metre (same level) walk.

birds · Jun 28th, 2007, 13:36

Hi Stev,

Thanks a lot for the offer. I think she would prefer to change in London rather than in Mumbai or Delhi as that involves about 6 to 8 hours waiting. Any ideas about charters leaving from the UK to Goa.

goangoangone · Jun 28th, 2007, 21:31

Google?

birds · Jun 29th, 2007, 01:01

Of course I tried Google but not with great results.

I learned that there are charters which fly to Goa from Gatwick and Manchester but not which companies. There are also references that charters fly from the Netherlands and Germany but, apart from expensive Condor, I found no booking sites or telephone numbers. Normal travel sites, like Expedia, do not seem to list charters flights.

I have never used a charter but I thought their raison d'etre was that they fly from point to point without stops and that they tend to be very cheap.
I know lots fly to Goa but somehow they elude me and Google

Perhaps it is because this is not the tourist season? But I thought you had to book them months in advance so that does not make sense either.

Not discounting the possibility that am missing the obvious, I was hoping somebody on IM may have used them or know more about it.

boefje12 · Jun 29th, 2007, 01:25

Hi Birds,

Have you checked out KLM? This is what I found:

Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS) To Goa - Dabolim (GOI).

Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Dep. at Arr./ at Flight Op. St Travel
05 06 07 08 09 10 11 trans. by op time

AMS 10:25 BOM 22:50 KL6034 NW 0 17:35
BOM 06:30+1 GOI 07:30+1 9W479 9W 0

AMS 19:05 LHR 19:25 KL1027 KL 0 14:55
LHR 21:25 BOM 10:50+1 9W117 9W 0
BOM 12:30+1 GOI 13:30+1 9W471 9W 0

AMS 11:05 DEL 22:50 KL871 KL 0 22:25
DEL 06:50+1 BOM 08:45+1 9W332 9W 0
BOM 12:00+1 GOI 13:00+1 9W475 9W 0
-1=Arrival previous day., +1=Arrival next day., +2=Arrival 2 days later

Return schedules

Goa - Dabolim (GOI) To Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS).
Thursday, July 12, 2007 - Wednesday, July 18, 2007

Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Dep. at Arr./ at Flight Op. St Travel
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 trans. by op time

GOI 16:40 BOM 17:40 9W474 9W 0 17:35
BOM 00:50+1 AMS 06:45+1 KL6033 NW 0

GOI 16:15 BOM 17:15 9W474 9W 0 18:00
BOM 00:50+1 AMS 06:45+1 KL6033 NW 0

GOI 14:05 BOM 15:05 9W472 9W 0 20:10
BOM 00:50+1 AMS 06:45+1 NW33 NW 0

GOI 13:45 BOM 14:45 9W476 9W 0 19:35
BOM 15:45 DEL 17:45 9W370 9W 0
DEL 00:50+1 AMS 05:50+1 KL872 KL 0
-1=Arrival previous day., +1=Arrival next day., +2=Arrival 2 days later

Hope it is helpful...

machadinha · Jun 29th, 2007, 01:39

Do you have KLM's prices with that Boefje?

Birds, I've lost if she's in Germany or wherever but I assume a decent local travel agent should have the info, about departures from elsewhere too.

boefje12 · Jun 29th, 2007, 02:13

Ha Mach, now you ask me??

This was only to find out if there were flights from Amsterdam to Goa and yes there are

According to the itinerary I get a quote of Euro 286,18 cents. You can get a PTA (prepaid ticket) issued from India even for flights originating from Amsterdam. I have done that for my mum and sis who flew in from India to Ams. I hope this works out. Lufthansa and Air France fly to Goa too.

Good luck Birds!!

Annett · Jun 29th, 2007, 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by boefje12

Ha Mach, now you ask me??

This was only to find out if there were flights from Amsterdam to Goa and yes there are

According to the itinerary I get a quote of Euro 286,18 cents. You can get a PTA (prepaid ticket) issued from India even for flights originating from Amsterdam. I have done that for my mum and sis who flew in from India to Ams. I hope this works out. Lufthansa and Air France fly to Goa too.

Good luck Birds!!

naaaaaaaaaa boefje12 - are you serious - only 286,18 Euros?! The cheapest flight I could find was about 820 Euros...

boefje12 · Jun 29th, 2007, 02:38

check out this link...it is all in Dutch but perhaps you could get the same (similar) rate from http://www.klm.com.

Here is the sample price list from www.cheaptickets.nl (all in Dutch). Let me know (or perhaps the real Dutchies would help out) should you need translation.

Vluchttarieven per persoon (Tariff per person)

KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines (147,00 EUR + 139,18 EUR) 286,18 EUR

Lufthansa German Airlines (149,00 EUR + 141,86 EUR) 290,86 EUR

Air France (150,00 EUR + 111,26 EUR) 261,26 EUR

Air France (150,00 EUR + 111,26 EUR) 261,26 EUR

Air France (150,00 EUR + 139,18 EUR) 289,18 EUR

Air France (150,00 EUR + 139,18 EUR) 289,18 EUR

KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines (150,00 EUR + 167,10 EUR) 317,10 EUR

Air France (150,00 EUR + 167,10 EUR) 317,10 EUR

Jun 27th, 2007, 04:30	#1
birds Adopt a stray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Goa Posts: 664	Amsterdam - Goa? Charters? Where? How? Hi All, I am trying to find a charter that flies from the Netherlands to Goa direct. Any suggestions? On the web I found a press release saying Arkefly would do this but on their website I can not find anything about it. If there are no direct flights from the Netherlands, I guess the other two options are Germany with Condor but that seem as expensive as a ticket with a normal airline via either Mumbai or Delhi. The other option is via the UK, correct? Are there any others? Can anybody recommend a certain charter from any European country? Thanks a lot for any suggestions.

Jun 27th, 2007, 04:44	#2
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,089	Member Barn recently came up with this http://www.amadeus.net/home/index_toplevel.htm , looked pretty decent to me __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

Jun 27th, 2007, 04:46	#3
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,622	I think you already have a place to stay in Goa, is that correct? There are sometimes some good charter deals at the very start or the very end of the season, but other than that I think the Mumbai option is normally the cheapest (and most flexible). __________________ . How to get helpful replies to your transport/Itinerary questions. Train information.

Jun 27th, 2007, 14:53	#6
goangoangone What happened? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,539	Probably cheaper to fly from London. __________________ GoanGoan......here

Jun 29th, 2007, 02:13	#13
boefje12 The Gypsy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 39	Amsterdam/ Goa Ha Mach, now you ask me?? This was only to find out if there were flights from Amsterdam to Goa and yes there are According to the itinerary I get a quote of Euro 286,18 cents. You can get a PTA (prepaid ticket) issued from India even for flights originating from Amsterdam. I have done that for my mum and sis who flew in from India to Ams. I hope this works out. Lufthansa and Air France fly to Goa too. Good luck Birds!!

Jun 27th, 2007, 11:37	#4
TracyB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 349	I just booked KLM..Amsterdam to Mumbai and will take a Jet Airways flight to Goa the following morning..It was the best option i could find...although i live in Canada..

Jun 27th, 2007, 13:06	#5
birds Adopt a stray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Goa Posts: 664	Thanks for the suggestions. The flight is for my elderly mother (if she reads this she will never speak to me again ) and I was hoping that I could save her a stop-over. Her trip would be from early February until the end of the month, so during the tourist season I thought there may be some charters But if it is not possible I probably will have to I pick her up in Mumbai. One day, I will convince Vijay Mallya that a regular Kingfisher flight Nice - Goa would be great as he has houses at both ends, it would bring in all the Russians who holiday at both places and would suit me too .

Jun 27th, 2007, 16:09	#7
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,622	Let me know if your mother is traveling through London, I know the transport options really well and can suggest the easiest route/connections between airports. The main problem with London is that the budget flights normally arrive at the smaller airports, but the (long distance) International flights depart from either Heathrow or Gatwick. If traveling via London, also consider Stanstead and Luton airports if you can get a really good price. Luton to Gatwick is very easy, a direct train. Luton to Heathrow - one change, including stairs. Stanstead to Gatwick - 2 changes, including stairs. Stanstead to Heathrow - 2 changes, including stairs, though one of the changes is just a 10 metre (same level) walk.

Jun 28th, 2007, 13:36	#8
birds Adopt a stray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Goa Posts: 664	Hi Stev, Thanks a lot for the offer. I think she would prefer to change in London rather than in Mumbai or Delhi as that involves about 6 to 8 hours waiting. Any ideas about charters leaving from the UK to Goa.

Jun 28th, 2007, 21:31	#9
goangoangone What happened? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,539	Google?

Jun 29th, 2007, 01:01	#10
birds Adopt a stray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Goa Posts: 664	Of course I tried Google but not with great results. I learned that there are charters which fly to Goa from Gatwick and Manchester but not which companies. There are also references that charters fly from the Netherlands and Germany but, apart from expensive Condor, I found no booking sites or telephone numbers. Normal travel sites, like Expedia, do not seem to list charters flights. I have never used a charter but I thought their raison d'etre was that they fly from point to point without stops and that they tend to be very cheap. I know lots fly to Goa but somehow they elude me and Google Perhaps it is because this is not the tourist season? But I thought you had to book them months in advance so that does not make sense either. Not discounting the possibility that am missing the obvious, I was hoping somebody on IM may have used them or know more about it.

Jun 29th, 2007, 01:25	#11
boefje12 The Gypsy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 39	Hi Birds, Have you checked out KLM? This is what I found: Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS) To Goa - Dabolim (GOI). Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Dep. at Arr./ at Flight Op. St Travel 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 trans. by op time AMS 10:25 BOM 22:50 KL6034 NW 0 17:35 BOM 06:30+1 GOI 07:30+1 9W479 9W 0 AMS 19:05 LHR 19:25 KL1027 KL 0 14:55 LHR 21:25 BOM 10:50+1 9W117 9W 0 BOM 12:30+1 GOI 13:30+1 9W471 9W 0 AMS 11:05 DEL 22:50 KL871 KL 0 22:25 DEL 06:50+1 BOM 08:45+1 9W332 9W 0 BOM 12:00+1 GOI 13:00+1 9W475 9W 0 -1=Arrival previous day., +1=Arrival next day., +2=Arrival 2 days later Return schedules Goa - Dabolim (GOI) To Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS). Thursday, July 12, 2007 - Wednesday, July 18, 2007 Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Dep. at Arr./ at Flight Op. St Travel 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 trans. by op time GOI 16:40 BOM 17:40 9W474 9W 0 17:35 BOM 00:50+1 AMS 06:45+1 KL6033 NW 0 GOI 16:15 BOM 17:15 9W474 9W 0 18:00 BOM 00:50+1 AMS 06:45+1 KL6033 NW 0 GOI 14:05 BOM 15:05 9W472 9W 0 20:10 BOM 00:50+1 AMS 06:45+1 NW33 NW 0 GOI 13:45 BOM 14:45 9W476 9W 0 19:35 BOM 15:45 DEL 17:45 9W370 9W 0 DEL 00:50+1 AMS 05:50+1 KL872 KL 0 -1=Arrival previous day., +1=Arrival next day., +2=Arrival 2 days later Hope it is helpful...

Jun 29th, 2007, 01:39	#12
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,089	Do you have KLM's prices with that Boefje? Birds, I've lost if she's in Germany or wherever but I assume a decent local travel agent should have the info, about departures from elsewhere too.

Jun 29th, 2007, 02:38	#15
boefje12 The Gypsy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 39	check out this link...it is all in Dutch but perhaps you could get the same (similar) rate from http://www.klm.com. Here is the sample price list from www.cheaptickets.nl (all in Dutch). Let me know (or perhaps the real Dutchies would help out) should you need translation. Vluchttarieven per persoon (Tariff per person) KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines (147,00 EUR + 139,18 EUR) 286,18 EUR Lufthansa German Airlines (149,00 EUR + 141,86 EUR) 290,86 EUR Air France (150,00 EUR + 111,26 EUR) 261,26 EUR Air France (150,00 EUR + 111,26 EUR) 261,26 EUR Air France (150,00 EUR + 139,18 EUR) 289,18 EUR Air France (150,00 EUR + 139,18 EUR) 289,18 EUR KLM-Royal Dutch Airlines (150,00 EUR + 167,10 EUR) 317,10 EUR Air France (150,00 EUR + 167,10 EUR) 317,10 EUR

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