Leopard Safari in Bera, Rajasthan

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Hi we are planning our next India trip, starting with a week at Corbett. We plan to then move to Bera, probably getting the overnight train from Delhi. We may also visit Udaipur before going on to Goa. Can anyone advise:
1) How long is the drive from Bera to Udaipur?
2) Is it worth including Udaipur in the trip?
3) I have heard that hey still bait the Leopards at Bera, is this true?
4) Would we be best to go Delhi, train to Bera, car to Udaipur then fly to Goa or Fly Delhi to Udaipur, car to Bera, train to Delhi and then fly to Goa?
5) Is there anywhere else we should visit in the area?

Any advice welcome

Thanks
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Originally Posted by tripsammy View Post Hi we are planning our next India trip, starting with a week at Corbett. We plan to then move to Bera, probably getting the overnight train from Delhi. We may also visit Udaipur before going on to Goa. Can anyone advise:
1) How long is the drive from Bera to Udaipur?
2) Is it worth including Udaipur in the trip?
3) I have heard that hey still bait the Leopards at Bera, is this true?
4) Would we be best to go Delhi, train to Bera, car to Udaipur then fly to Goa or Fly Delhi to Udaipur, car to Bera, train to Delhi and then fly to Goa?
5) Is there anywhere else we should visit in the area?

Any advice welcome

Thanks
Tripsammy,
1) Drive from Udaipur to Bera is about 6-8 hours, depending upon the driver and halts en route.
2) You will need to spare at least 2 days to enjoy Udaipur. It is a beautiful place and definitely a must visit.
3) Baiting is optional, you need to sponsor a goat for that. Without baiting too you will be able to spot leopards, but from afar. Bera is a circus show. It's not a safari in the true spirit of the word. A leopard family resides in the hills and the Thakur simply parks his jeep close to that.
4) Fly from Delhi to Udaipur. Travel by car to Bera and then back to Udaipur. From Udaipur you'll probably need to take a flight to Goa via Mumbai, not sure there's a direct flight.
5) Attractions near Udaipur - Ranakpur Jain temples (on the way to Bera), Kumbalgarh and Rajsamand.
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Thank you Maneesh
I am getting so many mixed messages about Bera. I am really not interested in baiting and a wildlife circus show! If that is all it is then maybe I should look elsewhere, maybe return to Nargarhole. If they are truly wild and living in the area then that would be fine, but if it is a circus I would be as well to go to a zoo! I am only interested in wildlife in the wild in it's natural habitat.
Many thanks
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Hi Tripsammy,

Those leopards are wild ones and the rocky-hills around Bera are their natural habitat. But the place will not give you the feel of a forest. There are human settlements and agricultural fields around the spot. One of the hills has a cave and a leopard family resides over there. They come out in the open in the morning and evening to bask in the sun and hunt for prey - that is when you sight them. If you are desperate to sight a leopard then Bera makes sense since sighting is almost guaranteed, otherwise leopards are found all across India - it's just that in dense forests they are very elusive.
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Interesting thread, thanks to all for contributing.

Tripsammy, you sound pretty experienced in these matters. Would you say that for someone who hasn't seen much wildlife, then Bera is a cost-effective way to at least start getting a glimpse of something interesting? We're not rich people and I do worry that some of the more remote/authentic places might simply be beyond our budget.

Thanks for any wisdom and all the best,

G.
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Originally Posted by GP&D View Post Interesting thread, thanks to all for contributing.

Tripsammy, you sound pretty experienced in these matters. Would you say that for someone who hasn't seen much wildlife, then Bera is a cost-effective way to at least start getting a glimpse of something interesting? We're not rich people and I do worry that some of the more remote/authentic places might simply be beyond our budget.

Thanks for any wisdom and all the best,

G.
Hi GP&D,
Bera is not cost-effective as well. If my memory serves me right, in 2012 I had paid an all-inclusive tariff of 7500/- per night in the off-season (latest tariffs: http://leopardlairresort.com/tariff.html). At other wildlife parks you can share the jeep with other enthusiasts and stay in cheap hotels. You don't have any such luxury at Bera. Also at other parks you will get to see a lot of other wildlife (including innumerable birds), whereas, in Bera the leopard is the only attraction.
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Most people are making a beeline to Bera only to obtain blood-stained mug shots of a leopard feasting on a bait. In other words, to obtain bragging rights! No harm in that. To each his own
I did not sponsor a bait at Bera, so I had to be content with spotting the leopards from far and that too in a light that was dying rapidly
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Thanks maneeshgoal,

Let me explain myself a bit more. As a one-off treat and highlight of a trip, I don't think 7/8k per night is a crazy tariff - if you are going to get to see some wildlife, in this case leopards. What I've found in the past is that if you skimp too much on costs, you don't get what you were hoping for. (This was our experience in Chitwan National Park in Nepal.)

With this in mind, some time ago I looked into a trip to the Jim Corbett Park. If memory serves me, it seemed that to have a really great experience and definitely see some interesting wild life, it was going to be beyond out budget.

I suppose we all have different ideas of what is expensive, but if Bera will deliver some beautiful sights, and the accommodation/experience is as good as you say, then I would definitely consider it. So thanks very much for bringing it to my attention - it's now on my list of things in India to look into!

All the best,

G

ps. Yes, it does sound rather gory. I'm no wildlife expert, but I don't think I'd enjoy baiting - all a bit too macho and "starbucks" for me!
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I am not talking about skimping on costs. A thing is expensive only when you pay far more than the value you get!
I have been to many wildlife parks in India and have had excellent sightings. Wildlife do not care how much money you spent, they do not discriminate. The thing is, Bera is like a private show with no thrill of going to the jungle, no excitement of tracking down an animal, no nothing. It's like going to a zoo and seeing the animal, minus the cage. In the same budget one can have a far superior jungle experience elsewhere.
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No baiting for me on 6 or 7 trips, only patience ...
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Originally Posted by didindia7 View Post No baiting for me on 6 or 7 trips, only patience ...
My friend, how are you? We were together twice in the same jeep at Ranthambhore a few years ago (2011, I think). On both occasions we were rewarded with Tiger sightings
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Very well, thanks. I spent a lot of time in India for wildlife as usual. This year, Tadoba and Ranthambore provided fantastic sightings! Last year, again a tigress hunt in the lake...
I 'll go again next december for 2 weeks...
I hope you had good sightings and travels.

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Wink

We have decided to give it a go. We will fly to Delhi, train to Ramnagar and then have a week at Corbett with Ramesh. Plan is to take the overnight train to Delhi then fly to Udaipur for one or 2 nights, then drive to Bera and stay 1 or 2 nights before the train back to Delhi and a flight to Goa for a bit of r and r before heading home!

So do we need 2 nights at Bera to get 4 'safari's' or will one night and 2 'safari's' be sufficient? 1 night Bera and 2 Udaipur or 1 night Bera and 2 in Udaipur??? Aaaagh such decisions!
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2 nights at Bera for 4 safaris, normally I always stay there 3 nights...
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Thanks, so 2 nights it is. Now the decision on Leopard's Lair and Castle Bera! I am leaning towards Castle Bera as the tripadvisor reports on Leopards Lair recently have been pretty poor! Does anyone know if there is much difference between them? I want NOTHING to do with baiting! Thanks again for the guidance.

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