How can we help save the Tiger?

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There is a lot going on with regard to"save the tiger" and it all seems to be signing petitions and joining facebook groups or other online stuff. I am sure that it all helps raise awareness and consciousness raising is good too but in the cold light of dawn the wild tiger is still in serious trouble.

I want to ask everyone to share ideas good bad ugly wacko anything so we can discuss how we as individuals, as a community, as an online group of concerned persons can actually have an impact in measurable terms.

I am a disability activist and we do advocacy and change policy and stuff all the time or at least we try a lot and get there slower than we want but at least we are out there picketing or doing something.

The question I have and this is really from the heart is "WHAT CAN WE DO?"

SOME IDEAS:

1. Research the truth about Traditional Chinese Medicine and raise awareness among the users that it does not work.

2. Apply pressure on the forest authorities through mass mailers/ media to ensure strict protection.

3. Support Village people to monitor possible poaching activity and report strange people in the forest to the forest officers.

4. Electrical fences around forests??

I DONT KNOW!!!!

Lets talk about this please.
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this is an interview with Tiger Man Valmik Thapar.


http://www.developednation.org/inter...lmikthapar.htm
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Over 98% of the tigers in India were wiped out in the 20th century by hunting and habitat loss. Save the forest, save the tigers.
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save the tiger

1)First of all clear out all illegal neighboring villages which have encroached the land which belongs to the parks. These damn villagers kill tigers because they stray into their villages and kill their live stock.
2)Punish poachers severely. Lock them for life or worse.
3)Give the authorirties the power to shoot at sight any poachers.
4)Hire more guards and give them better equipment.
3)Fire those who are given the reponsibility to protect the tigers if they fail to do their job.
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Originally Posted by PIODelhi View Post 1)First of all clear out all illegal neighboring villages which have encroached the land which belongs to the parks. These damn villagers kill tigers because they stray into their villages and kill their live stock.
2)Punish poachers severely. Lock them for life or worse.
3)Give the authorities the power to shoot at sight any poachers.
4)Hire more guards and give them better equipment.
3)Fire those who are given the reponsibility to protect the tigers if they fail to do their job.
thanks for the suggestions PIO they are certainly what the govt should do and this is what Valmik Thapar has been fighting for for a long time.

I guess I am more into what we as civil society as the 'public' can do to help save the tiger. I think more than poaching Valmik has a simple funda. Humans and tigers cannot live together. where you have this, tigers will die! This is not something we can do... relocating villages and handing over land for the villagers is for sure not what we can do.

We need to come up with ideas that civil society can implement.

THIS IS THE CHALLENGE!
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Originally Posted by PIODelhi View Post 1)First of all clear out all illegal neighboring villages which have encroached the land which belongs to the parks. These damn villagers kill tigers because they stray into their villages and kill their live stock.
2)Punish poachers severely. Lock them for life or worse.
3)Give the authorirties the power to shoot at sight any poachers.
4)Hire more guards and give them better equipment.
3)Fire those who are given the reponsibility to protect the tigers if they fail to do their job.
Couldnt agree more. With all these, every one of us should also kick the politicians or authorities a** if they fail to do their job or care less for the environment. There should be more strict laws related to forest and wild life.
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Sentimental anthropomorphilogical illusions are not helping to save the tiger. Please make sure actual knowledge is disseminated at these kind of events. We must respect the nature of the tiger and to respect it, we must be knowledgeable of it. The public needs to understand what tigers need in terms of habitat, amount of territory, adequate prey and unencroached space. I'm appalled at how little the public (here in India) actually know. The experts know, yes. what about the rest of us??? Ignorance rather than poachers will probably finish the last tiger!!!
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Leading conservationist and big cat expert, Sybelle Foxcroft says that sources on the ground feel like the real number of tigers in India is probably as low as 800. See her site www.cee4life.org and FB page http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/e...96518290362696
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Originally Posted by P J Walton View Post Sentimental anthropomorphilogical illusions are not helping to save the tiger. Please make sure actual knowledge is disseminated at these kind of events. We must respect the nature of the tiger and to respect it, we must be knowledgeable of it. The public needs to understand what tigers need in terms of habitat, amount of territory, adequate prey and unencroached space. I'm appalled at how little the public (here in India) actually know. The experts know, yes. what about the rest of us??? Ignorance rather than poachers will probably finish the last tiger!!!
We cant force every one. Its an self interest every one has to develop about their environment including wild life. But in short time we humans have to stay away from the wild life as well as forest rather than destroying it. That will atleast solve the problem of animals entering into out territory.

Even if it enters, humans should try to capture it and give it back to wild life authorities rather than beating it to death.
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Originally Posted by P J Walton View Post The experts know, yes. what about the rest of us??? Ignorance rather than poachers will probably finish the last tiger!!!
I suspect that the general public comes into three categories:

--- the vast majority, who couldn't care less.

--- a large group to whom the tiger and other animals are just a side show to be driven away by the shouts and screams coming from their safari tour vehicles.

--- the few who care, amongst whom there is an even smaller subgroup who are also knowledgeable.

Well, I know I don't merit inclusion in that final sub group, but I hope I don't belong to the vast majority
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post I suspect that the general public comes into three categories:

--- the vast majority, who couldn't care less.

--- a large group to whom the tiger and other animals are just a side show to be driven away by the shouts and screams coming from their safari tour vehicles.

--- the few who care, amongst whom there is an even smaller subgroup who are also knowledgeable.

Well, I know I don't merit inclusion in that final sub group, but I hope I don't belong to the vast majority
VERY WELL PUT NICK-H

SO THE POINT IS WHO ARE WE AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO. I CAME UP WITH THE WEBSITE www.cee4life.org in OZ and they are trying to raise awareness. there is a walk on corbett this year may 14.

but the thing is, can we discuss ideas on what we, the concerned minority, could should, can, ought to do.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post I suspect that the general public comes into three categories:
--- the few who care, amongst whom there is an even smaller subgroup who are also knowledgeable.

Well, I know I don't merit inclusion in that final sub group, but I hope I don't belong to the vast majority
Well Nick-H I found an amazing site and i wish you would go there too.

http://www.truthabouttigers.org/home/?page_id=5

amazing stuff.

very engaging, interesting and informed.
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I read somewhere that tigers in captivity in zoos, safari parks, circuses and the such like far outnumber tigers in the wild. Furthermore, it has proved impossible to release any tigers reared in captivity into the wild. So why not breed them in captivity and supply traditional Chinese medicine from these specimens. That should do away with the poachers' market.
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Most tigers in the world ~12000, live in --> o n e .. c o u n t r y.



Read this: H o w .. t o .. S a v e .. T i g e r s.
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Originally Posted by Golghar2 View Post I read somewhere that tigers in captivity in zoos, safari parks, circuses and the such like far outnumber tigers in the wild. Furthermore, it has proved impossible to release any tigers reared in captivity into the wild. So why not breed them in captivity and supply traditional Chinese medicine from these specimens. That should do away with the poachers' market.

i would recommend that you go to www.cee4life.org and see what Chinese medicine is and then I would like to see your views.

It is very interesting.

cheers

arun

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