Would you go for dual citizenship? Why?

crvlvr

I think the issue is resolved. But, Phobal for some reason decided to wake up after one ful year and add his 2 cents to his own post from the previous year ..

OFcourse, dual citizenships exist. but, it has to be allowed by both countries. The US allows it, but not India.

vandy

I fail to see why I as a person BORN in India,and able to PROOVE this,have to jump through all the same Beaurocratic Hoops (to Obtain one of these Cards) as a Person who is NOT Born in India.

As far as I am concerned its just another
Beaurocratic Money Making,Rubber Stamping Process
which will ensure a Decent Xmas Party for Indian Consulates around the world.

Happy to Pay the Same Application FEES as everyone else BUT as far as ALL the other B#**S**T goes,Give us a Break.

In my Humble Opinion Beaurocratic B#**S**T is just an Unnecessary Abuse of Power in Most Instances.I accept it is a Necessary Evil to Provide Jobs in some LOCAL Sectors,in most cases It is Tolerated to Avoid Confrontation,Frustration & Rejection

vandy

Aishah

crvlvr - and for this reason "India does not allow it" I am going for PIO card and not citizenship. But doesn't it work for NRI's - is that new law they were talking about allowing NRI's to hold dual citizenship now in force?

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Nick-H

Well... As a citizen of an EU country, I believe I am entitled to cross borders within the EU without having a passport. But what's the easiest way to prove that I am an EU citizen? Yep: having a passport! (or National ID card; but UK doesn't do those, yet).

I guess there are lots and lots of Indian-looking people in the world who do not qualify for OCI.

OTOH, given the non-existence of documentation of the birth of many of them, let alone their parents or grandparents, I guess the process can be pretty frustrating.

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edwardseco

Actually, they ask for your old passport. Watched that. However, some people claimed that they lost it and weren't pressed on that..

pontesnm

The US government requires you to surrender your Green Card (resident alien card) when you become a US Citizen. The US cannot technically take away your Indian passport as that is the property of the Indian govt. When I applied for a US passport they did not require me to state that I did not have a valid passport from another country.

Interestingly you can hold a passport of a country and not be a citizen of the country. There were about 60,000 Indians who had British passports but lived in Uganda. When they were deported in 1973, Britain refused to let them live in Britain because they were classified as "Overseas British Citizens".

My kids and I just acquired OCI status (my wife is not of Indian descent and so is not eligible). The process was relatively painless and quick - about 1 month.

vandy

Thats right Nick, I have a Passport which states the Place of my Birth being India, I also have a Birth Certificate which states
the same.Like I said,why should I as a person BORN in India have
to endure the same Beaurocratic B#**S**T as someone who was not born in India when applying for one of these cards



vandy

phobal

Well, we know how bureaucratic India is enough....

pontesnm

Vandy:
Well I guess it is because you gave up your Indian citizenship at some time. Bureaucrats do not make laws. The law against dual citizenship is actually part of the Constitution of India and not some bureaucratic regulation.

I was born in India and was an Indian citizen for 48 years. My kids were not born in India and have never visited India. But I gave up Indian citizenship and so in effect I placed myself on an equal footing with them. We did a family application all got OCI cards and so can travel to India visa free

Nick-H

In India, effectively they do, because if they choose to stonewall you, you cannot get any further.

In India, the law is what the Bureaucrat you are talking to at the time says it is.

---saying of Nick-H!

the opoponax

Guys, for like the zillionth time.

The US has no interest in revoking foreign passports, because they're perfectly fine with people holding dual citizenships. My roommate has dual UK/US citizenship. He has both passports sitting in the top drawer of his desk as we speak. I have seen them. Both are valid. Both have been renewed multiple times since he became a US citizen. He has used both to travel overseas. Recently.

As far as the Indian government recognizing that or not, well that's up to them to revoke your passport when you change citizenships. Not the US, who clearly doesn't give a damn whether you have a dual citizenship or not, and as stated above does not have the authority to confiscate passports from other countries.

Nick-H

Don't think anyone denied your correct assertion of this in your post 30 on this thread, did they?

Anyway, its true: just as true as when you said it before.

They might (I don't know) ask you to declare your citizenship of other countries as part of the naturalisation application/grant?

the opoponax

That was mainly for edwardseco at #35.

And sorta a response to pontesnm, as well.

Nick-H

Missed that

the opoponax

S'okay.

I thought it was a little heavy handed, myself.

It's just odd to see so much misunderstanding and misinformation going on in this thread. I like criticizing the US as much as the next disgruntled leftist, but the bottom line is that if you have a problem with the fact that you can't be a citizen of the US and India at the same time, you'll have to look to India about that because a great many American hold multiple citizenships and the US gov't doesn't seem to care.