Was deported from mumbai airport after arrival

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Was deported from mumbai airport after arrival

I am very confused... Yesterday I arrived to Mumbai Airport with new valid 6 month tourist visa. My last visa was X (entry) type. BUT with overstay - 2 months (I got exit permission at Mumbai FRRO). Plus it was only 1 month after my last visit. Not the best situation as you see... To my surprise I've got the new visa though I was warned that in this conditions everything could happen.
Yesterday I arrived to Mumbai (my flight was Moscow-Sharjah-Mumbai) and at passport control I was asked to come along with the officer. I didnt think that smth was wrong, everybody looked quite friendly. After 5 min in Immigration Bureau I was told they I would be deported with the same flight. As far as I understood from their word because of overstayed. Nobody explained my anything, they just gave me paper where it's written that I was not allowed to stay in India because of "inadmissable pax".
Any ideas? I do need to come back in India, I have valid 6 month visa (if it means smth). I should be not in black list otherwise they would not give me visa, no?
Please, tell me something!
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Originally Posted by papanya View Post I am very confused... Yesterday I arrived to Mumbai Airport with new valid 6 month tourist visa. My last visa was X (entry) type. BUT with overstay - 2 months (I got exit permission at Mumbai FRRO). Plus it was only 1 month after my last visit. Not the best situation as you see... To my surprise I've got the new visa though I was warned that in this conditions everything could happen.
Yesterday I arrived to Mumbai (my flight was Moscow-Sharjah-Mumbai) and at passport control I was asked to come along with the officer. I didnt think that smth was wrong, everybody looked quite friendly. After 5 min in Immigration Bureau I was told they I would be deported with the same flight. As far as I understood from their word because of overstayed. Nobody explained my anything, they just gave me paper where it's written that I was not allowed to stay in India because of "inadmissable pax".
Any ideas? I do need to come back in India, I have valid 6 month visa (if it means smth). I should be not in black list otherwise they would not give me visa, no?
Please, tell me something!
The most likely reason for deportation is the overstay during your last visit. Iam not sure what exactly 'inadmissable pax' means but if they used/mentioned the word "deportation" during their conversation with you, the chances of your entry in to India is almost nil. Your name in black list is irrelevant in this situation. Even if you get the tourist/entry visa again after an year or two, the fact that you were "deported" once is enough to refuse entry, whatever may be the reason for deportation.

Iam not an expert in these matters, but this is my opinion based on what you said. Further advice will come through from other members here.

All the best!
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Actually I am using the word "deported". In all papers wich they gave to me it is written that I am an inadmissible passenger (not deportee). Plus in my paper "Notice refused to laned" there are 4 reasons to send me back to my country:
1. arrive without appropriate entry visa
2. arrive wit forged passport/visa
3. entry banned in to India
4. any other reason (which is tipped and written with the pen "inadmissable pax")

I really dont understand how could they give me new visa at the embassy if I am on some list???? (I stil believe that I am not in "black list")
Do you think changing my passport will help me somehow? I want also to go to the embassy with all these papers and ask them....
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@papanya, First of all, while quoting any phrase/term (reference "Notice refused to laned"), always please quote exact word - letter by letter. It becomes easy to understand what exactly the reason was mentioned.

Second, getting visa is not a permit (and it does not give a right) to enter a country. And entry can be denied due to various other reasons - yours being overstay.

Even if you get your passport changed, it is very easy to trace the history in the age of IT.

Here you need to present your case to the Indian authorities via local Indian consular with a genuine reason of your overstay in India during the referenced visit. If possible, with evidence!

If your case is heard in positive, only then your name would be removed from the black list and you would be permitted to again enter into India...
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Prakaant,thank you for reply! So as far as I understand from your words, I am automatically registered at black list after overstay, right?
I do have proper reason for my overstay (and keep all papers till now) and hope that it will help me...
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So, I have requested you to present your case to appropriate authorities with evidence(s).
If request is accepted, you could be permitted again to visit country.
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by the way the word "LANED" was used in official paper!!!!)))
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"LANED" is probably a misprint.

My guess is that because you have returned only 1 month after your previous visit. Typically the processing time between visas is a minimum of 45 days. If you really need to be in India as you say, then you should seek a special permit at the nearest Indian consulate as soon as possible.
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OP is referring of "new valid 6 month tourist visa".
Generally new visa is not issued to prospective tourist in such case. Further, he has got notice of "Refused to land".
Hence, there seems a remote chance of getting special permit. OP may discuss the issue with the consular staff.
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Originally Posted by papanya View Post by the way the word "LANED" was used in official paper!!!!)))
Sorry to hear about your problem, man. I think you just got the wrong guy on the wrong day. My take on immigration officials is, it's the smiley guys you got to watch out for. I always go for the ones who frown and never say hello.

Other than that, I've got nothing else to offer. I got a story of my own, though. I got refused a visa extension once... on my third renewal. Apparently the FRRO lady thought I was jumping the queue and gave me a bogus story about how Canadians now needed to visit MHA before extension. I asked to see the notice. Well, there was none. I talked to her superior. He just said what she says is law.
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Originally Posted by Matka View Post Sorry to hear about your problem, man. I think you just got the wrong guy on the wrong day. My take on immigration officials is, it's the smiley guys you got to watch out for. I always go for the ones who frown and never say hello.

Other than that, I've got nothing else to offer. I got a story of my own, though. I got refused a visa extension once... on my third renewal. Apparently the FRRO lady thought I was jumping the queue and gave me a bogus story about how Canadians now needed to visit MHA before extension. I asked to see the notice. Well, there was none. I talked to her superior. He just said what she says is law.
I heard the idea of "the wrong guy" already. On my way back (they sent me with the same route Mumbai-Sharjah-Moscow) people at the Sharjah airport looked at my papers and said the same "Just the wrong guy..." Maybe it's important that there is no any mark in my passport about black list or deportation, honestly I dont know the procedure in such cases...
By the way I am a girl
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Originally Posted by papanya View Post ... Maybe it's important that there is no any mark in my passport about black list or deportation, honestly I dont know the procedure in such cases...
Feel lucky, they didn't mark your passport black listed or deported, else it would have become difficult to travel in other part of world also!

Black listed passport doesn't get visa in general case/condition!
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Originally Posted by Prakaant View Post OP is referring of "new valid 6 month tourist visa".
Generally new visa is not issued to prospective tourist in such case. Further, he has got notice of "Refused to land".
Hence, there seems a remote chance of getting special permit. OP may discuss the issue with the consular staff.
Prakaant - with respect. If papanya overstayed her visa by two months in the first place she would - by her passport and previous application - have served the 45 day waiting period, and therefore the two month exclusion period which applies within a 6 month visa period. That is why she has been issued a new visa. If - as she says - she "needs" to come back to India, then consular staff will look upon that favourably.
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Yes Sir, that's why I have requested her in Post #4 to present her case to higher authorities along with reason of overstay, so that her case is favorably considered!
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The reason can make of is quite simple, I think.

In post #3 above, if the officials have ticked point 4 and written inadmissible pax, it is certainly not a case of entry banned because of being on a banned list.

It is only because of a)Just one month after last visit (don't know how you got the visa) and b)Previous visit was an overstay.

Also you need to elaborate on how you got an X visa on your previous visit and how you resolved the overstay? That may give a better explanation beyond hat can be understood till now.
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