Question about PIO

TarlochanDhariwal

Hi,

I am British Born, and both parents are Indian and hold Indian Passports. I am trying to fill in the PIO Application form, but I am confused about a question:

"Have you or your parents or grand parents were born and were permanently resident in territories falling in present day India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, as on 30/03/1999. If yes, please give the following details:"

My parents have lived in the UK for over 15 years but they regularly go back to India for holidays. Do I answer yes, and give my Parent's details?

Also what is the significance of the date 30/03/1999

namaste_cat

The wording on PIO, OCI, visa forms can be quite confusing, but short answer - Yes.

You are eligible for OCI, so you might consider that instead of PIO.

TarlochanDhariwal

Thanks for the quick reply namaste_cat

My Grandma was born before the India/Pakistan split.

She was born in what is now Pakistan. Also I have no records as to where she was born because I have no birth certificates etc.

Should I leave her details out of the form

Nattusbs

The operative words are the following as underlined:

Have you or your parents or grand parents were born and were permanently resident in territories falling in present day India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, as on 30/03/1999. If yes, please give the following details.

So, if on 30/03/1999, your parents were permanently resident in India, then answer 'yes" and enclose copies of their Indian passports. It is that simple. All it does is it shows the GOI that you are eligible for PIO. Period. Nothing more, nothing less!

One of the things I have learnt on returning to India after 28 years in Canada and the US is that one answers GOI questions, as briefly as possible, lest anything you say or write be misunderstood or misinterpreted

Cheers

Nattusbs

TarlochanDhariwal

Thanks Nattusbs,

So I answer no because my Indian parents were not residing in India on 30/03/1999.

Does this still make be eligible for a PIO - since my Indian parents reside in the UK?

My parents still have Indian nationalities and hold Indian passports.

And what do you mean by GIO and do you know the significance of the date 30/03/1999?

Tarlochan

nayan

the question asked is - whether your parents were born etc etc....in territories falling in present day India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, as on 30/03/1999.

it is not about where your parents were on 30/03/1999. its about what territories were under India, pakistan and bangladesh on 30/03/1999.

(I dont think anyone will have parents/ grand parents born in 1999).

I dont think 30/3/1999 has any othet significance than the last day of the financial year previous to the start of the PIO scheme?

TarlochanDhariwal

Hi Nayan,

I was more concerned about the "were permanently resident" part of the question, because my parents have not been residing in India since they moved to the UK years ago.

So do I answer yes or no to the question?

Nattusbs

nayan

Technically you are probably correct. But, with GOI (government of India), one does not argue

All the OP needs to do, is to say, "my parents are Indian nationalities, they left India on xx/yy/zzzz and I wish to apply for PIO - please find attached copies of their Indian passports".

OP will also need to enclose copy of some kind of document showing that he/she is the child of the above parents (mentioned in the passports).

Cheers

Nattusbs

Nattusbs

OP

Simple. Were your parents in India or the UK on 30/03/1999?

Cheers mate

Nattusbs

nayan

you answer yes.

for example - your parents were born in 1960 and permanent resident till 1995 in terretories which were part of India on 30/03/1999.

is it clear now?

They are not interested in your parents whereabouts on 30/03/1999

TarlochanDhariwal

They were born in the 40's and were permanent residents in Delhi until 1962.

So according Nayan I should answer Yes?

But According to Nattusbs, I should answer No because my parents were in the UK on 30/03/1999?




OMG - THIS IS SO CONFUSING

Haylo

Nattusbs, I'm afraid that you have misread the paragraph, which isn't surprising because it is hardly written in the clearest of English... As Nayan pointed out NOBODY has parents born ANYWHERE as of 30/03/2009!

Yes, you answer yes. Definitely.

To help you understand why you answer yes, I shall rephrase the question. The original is:

Written in less cumbersome English, it says this:

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TarlochanDhariwal

Hi Haylo,

Thanks for your reply, I think I'll just add my parents to answer that question.

One more thing, do you know whether HCILondon will keep my passport and my parents passports for the duration of the PIO process or do I leave them photocopies of all the documents?

I ask this because I will be travelling in the next few weeks.

Thanks
Tarlochan

Haylo

Yes, they will accept copies for OCI, but for PIO you need to hand in your passport and original documents.

Not if you apply for a PIO you're not!

TarlochanDhariwal

Hi Haylo,

LOL -

The funny thing is I called HCILondon PIO Dept and asked them the same question and they said they only need photocopies but need to see the originals which I can take back.

But I just wanted to ask someone who has gone through the PIO process - I seem to have conflicting information.

I guess I can call again - if they answer - the phone is either busy or keeps on ringing. If I'm feeling lucky they pick up

Is there anyone out thier that have had their PIO's processed without having to leave their original documents? Let me know if you have

Thanks