PIO card holders requirements when leaving india

kullu gang · Oct 22nd, 2009, 13:27

Hi can anyone help regarding what is needed when leaving india if you are a PIO card holder? My son is 13 and holds a uk passport but has a PIO card for india does he have to go through the same tax clearence scnorio as everyone else he has been in india for 2 yrs 8 months and is returning to uk within 1 month

Nick-H · Oct 22nd, 2009, 13:57

I thought the tax clearance thing had been done away with long ago?

I am a PIO card holder (and an Indian-tax payer), and have not experienced any additional formalities on arrival on departure or arrival.

Only thing, last time, was they quiried that I had been here longer than 180 days, but were fine when I showed my registration/residence cert. ...But juniors don't have to register, I think?

kullu gang · Oct 22nd, 2009, 14:16

Thanks Nick so if you have your regitration papers and you travel docs you can just book a flight and leave.Both my kids had to be reg by the CID here in Kullu so I will have to get them a clearence certificate or a signiture in there passport. Proberly to do with my last thread comments bit dangerous in places here so everyones on file.
Thanks again

Nick-H · Oct 22nd, 2009, 15:41

Have you/they been here longer than 180 days on your current stay?

In this case, you/they should be ready to show that you have fulfilled the obligation to register --- by showing the RC/RP.

A couple of years back, I left India after 18 months unbroken stay, and they said nothing. I'll let you know what happens the next time... in Feb 2010!

kullu gang · Oct 22nd, 2009, 16:02

Hi Nick we have been here for 2 years and 8 months my sister has just got my son admitted in a school in the UK and he has to be back by the 9th Nov like I said before we reged just before the 180 days marker.To be honest I think a visit to the SP for permision to leave should be it I hope, we will leave just before you in 2010 so I will do a post to let you know if we get any agg.
Regards Darren

Nick-H · Oct 22nd, 2009, 16:15

Quote:

To be honest I think a visit to the SP for permision to leave should be it I hope

I don't think you need it. I don't think you need anything!

But I can understand that the airport would be the wrong place to discover officials who think otherwise! Do let us know how you get on with SP and Airport officials.

Second Thought... One is supposed to inform the FRO/FRRO if leaving for more than a few weeks, and one is supposed to surrender the RP/RC. If the SP wants to take it off you, make sure that you have a copy your son can show at the airport.

Aishah · Oct 22nd, 2009, 16:51

With previous visas, if I was absent more than six weeks I was required to inform the FRO - I did this by writing a letter, and that was all that was needed. Reading this thread makes me think if we are registered at FRO with our PIO cards, then this informing stuff continues as before with other Visas?

As for clearance certificate - I've never had to show anything like this ever either. And I agree with you Nick, we don't need permission to leave India either. I also thought we don't need anything else to go in and out of India - just our current passport and PIO card.

Nick-H · Oct 22nd, 2009, 18:04

A PIO card is supposed to make stuff easier --- not harder! Whilst there are freedoms that it does not grant, like freedom from registration, it does not impose anything.

kullu gang · Nov 12th, 2009, 20:21

My son left on the 03 nov and apart from the hassle of not being allowed into the airport without having a valid ticket he phoned me from inside and said he had no problems getting though immigration they only looked at his passport and PIO card and didnt ask for any thing else or ask any questions so it looks like the PIO lets you leave with the minimum of fuss....Shbash

Nick-H · Nov 12th, 2009, 22:24

Hey, that's what it is for!

No reason for it to be treated like anything but an ordinary visa.

Nattusbs · Nov 12th, 2009, 22:59

Exactly. There should not be any need for any additional paper work.

On the other hand, the CCU emigration staff asked me, when I was visiting Seoul in October, about the FRO letter - I had that and it was cool. All they wanted to know is whether as a foreigner you had registered with FRO. Other than that they could care less

Cheers

Nattusbs

curtdfw · Nov 12th, 2009, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Nattusbs

Exactly. There should not be any need for any additional paper work.

On the other hand, the CCU emigration staff asked me, when I was visiting Seoul in October, about the FRO letter - I had that and it was cool. All they wanted to know is whether as a foreigner you had registered with FRO. Other than that they could care less

And the FRO registration shouldn't come up as your son is under 16:

http://immigrationindia.nic.in/FAQ_Registration.htm

Oct 22nd, 2009, 13:27	#1
kullu gang Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: kullu himachal pradesh Posts: 99	PIO card holders requirements when leaving india Hi can anyone help regarding what is needed when leaving india if you are a PIO card holder? My son is 13 and holds a uk passport but has a PIO card for india does he have to go through the same tax clearence scnorio as everyone else he has been in india for 2 yrs 8 months and is returning to uk within 1 month

Oct 22nd, 2009, 16:51	#7
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 7,614	With previous visas, if I was absent more than six weeks I was required to inform the FRO - I did this by writing a letter, and that was all that was needed. Reading this thread makes me think if we are registered at FRO with our PIO cards, then this informing stuff continues as before with other Visas? As for clearance certificate - I've never had to show anything like this ever either. And I agree with you Nick, we don't need permission to leave India either. I also thought we don't need anything else to go in and out of India - just our current passport and PIO card. __________________ "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards."

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Oct 22nd, 2009, 13:57	#2
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	I thought the tax clearance thing had been done away with long ago? I am a PIO card holder (and an Indian-tax payer), and have not experienced any additional formalities on arrival on departure or arrival. Only thing, last time, was they quiried that I had been here longer than 180 days, but were fine when I showed my registration/residence cert. ...But juniors don't have to register, I think?

Oct 22nd, 2009, 14:16	#3
kullu gang Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: kullu himachal pradesh Posts: 99	Thanks Nick so if you have your regitration papers and you travel docs you can just book a flight and leave.Both my kids had to be reg by the CID here in Kullu so I will have to get them a clearence certificate or a signiture in there passport. Proberly to do with my last thread comments bit dangerous in places here so everyones on file. Thanks again

Oct 22nd, 2009, 15:41	#4
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	Have you/they been here longer than 180 days on your current stay? In this case, you/they should be ready to show that you have fulfilled the obligation to register --- by showing the RC/RP. A couple of years back, I left India after 18 months unbroken stay, and they said nothing. I'll let you know what happens the next time... in Feb 2010!

Oct 22nd, 2009, 16:02	#5
kullu gang Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: kullu himachal pradesh Posts: 99	Hi Nick we have been here for 2 years and 8 months my sister has just got my son admitted in a school in the UK and he has to be back by the 9th Nov like I said before we reged just before the 180 days marker.To be honest I think a visit to the SP for permision to leave should be it I hope, we will leave just before you in 2010 so I will do a post to let you know if we get any agg. Regards Darren

Oct 22nd, 2009, 18:04	#8
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	A PIO card is supposed to make stuff easier --- not harder! Whilst there are freedoms that it does not grant, like freedom from registration, it does not impose anything.

Nov 12th, 2009, 20:21	#9
kullu gang Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: kullu himachal pradesh Posts: 99	My son left on the 03 nov and apart from the hassle of not being allowed into the airport without having a valid ticket he phoned me from inside and said he had no problems getting though immigration they only looked at his passport and PIO card and didnt ask for any thing else or ask any questions so it looks like the PIO lets you leave with the minimum of fuss....Shbash

Nov 12th, 2009, 22:24	#10
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	Hey, that's what it is for! No reason for it to be treated like anything but an ordinary visa.

Nov 12th, 2009, 22:59	#11
Nattusbs Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: IIT-Kharagpur Posts: 653	Exactly. There should not be any need for any additional paper work. On the other hand, the CCU emigration staff asked me, when I was visiting Seoul in October, about the FRO letter - I had that and it was cool. All they wanted to know is whether as a foreigner you had registered with FRO. Other than that they could care less Cheers Nattusbs