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Old Mar 4th, 2007, 07:46   #16
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One difference between OCI and PIO that gave me pause is that the OCI status could be used as an argument to deny consular protection in India. I am not sure about this point but recall seeing it in one of the opinions posted on the net - and it certainly took the air out of my drive to convert from PIO to OCI.

If anyone has confirmatory or refutatory information relating to this point, I'd love to see it.
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Old Mar 4th, 2007, 12:21   #17
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Yes, it has been mooted and discussed in another thread.

Can an OIC-holder tell us--- do they annotate your passport when granting OIC status? I would think it is quite possible ---they do for PIO--- but if not, then how is your embassy to know?

The thing is to evaluate the risk. What chance you would ever want your country, for example, to evacuate you from India?

Has it happened? Has a country ever taken its citizens out of this one?

But it would be foolish to consider that a zero risk: India has (what would you call it?) an uneasy relationship with at least one neighbour, and internal unrest happens too...
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Can an OIC-holder tell us--- do they annotate your passport when granting OIC status? I would think it is quite possible ---they do for PIO--- but if not, then how is your embassy to know?
For OCI - Yes, The Canadian passport is also endorsed by The Indian Cosulate - same stamp / photograph etc as on the OCI "passport".

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With Canadian dual citizenship holders thats exactly what happened in Labanon - thousands of Labanese have had dual citizenships (Canadian and Labanese) for many, many years (started many years before OCI).

The Canadain govt had to evacuate thousands, a couple of years ago (Israel etc bombings, remember some UN people were also killed in the bombings in Lebanon?). Anyway, the Canadain govt sent in a cruise liner, evacuated thousands and flew them back to Canada, including hundreds who had left Canada twenty / thirty years ago but were dual citizens.

This subject has been discussed elsewhere here - since then, I believe, the Canadian govt is in the discussion stage of passing a bill that would require the evacuees to pay the cost of evacuation.

Canadian citizens are advised to register with the Consulate in India.

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Old Mar 6th, 2007, 01:25   #19
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Can an OIC-holder tell us--- do they annotate your passport when granting OIC status? I would think it is quite possible ---they do for PIO--- but if not, then how is your embassy to know?
Just out of interest, what mark do you have in your passport to indicate you have a PIO Nick?

I recently obtained a PIO card from London, and there is no indication whatsoever in my UK passport that I hold a PIO card.

OIC card holders get a great big 'life long' full page visa stamped into their passports however.
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Just out of interest, what mark do you have in your passport to indicate you have a PIO Nick?

I recently obtained a PIO card from London, and there is no indication whatsoever in my UK passport that I hold a PIO card.

OIC card holders get a great big 'life long' full page visa stamped into their passports however.

There will be no indication on your passport that you hold an PIO card.
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Old Mar 6th, 2007, 02:02   #21
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Mine is annotated 'PIO Card' and the reference number, date issued, etc. My Residents Permit is also recorded in my passport.

So it may vary according to where it is issued.

I suspect that Immigration officers in India are probably more fond of writing things in passports. Just a hunch...
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Old Mar 6th, 2007, 04:55   #22
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Yes, it has been mooted and discussed in another thread.
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Nick - Any link to the thread you referenced? I did some search but did not succeed.

Thanks...
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Old Mar 6th, 2007, 12:10   #23
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Hmmm... Shakti? Do you recall?

I'll try to have a look for it later...
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