Passport Rejection

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Question Passport Rejection

My situation scenario.
1. Applied for passport through Travel Agency.
My Home City: A
Applied passport from B city (i living in current flat since past 3 years, but have only last two years agreement, missed out the first agreement and also owned had dumped the agreement of first year. )

2. Passport got successfully submitted, with only last 1 yearr's rent
agreement that too unregistered.

3. Gone to police station for verification, they ask me show last five years address proof (rent agreement) or asked to bring my owner to police station. But i have only last two years agreement.

4.But my owner is in powerful position (i don't want to release his identity). He refused to come to police station and also refused to provide any affidavit. (May be he is trying to save his income tax or his flat is illegal god knows)

5.Informed the same to police incharge, they gave me "samaj-patra" written in marathi to submit document(last 3 years rent agreement) within 30-November-2011, else file will be sent back, with some rejection note.

6. Afraid of passport rejection , i contacted my agent, he ask me to give police bribe. I agreed to bribe police approax 4000/- with agent as coordinator. Police fasten my work and verified my documents but main problem he found was, my agreement was unregistered and somewhere in agreement owner has mentioned different apartment's address other than apartment in which we were living.

7. Police refused to proceed and demanded more money (upto Rs. 10000) through agent coordinator to process further to make all thing legal by taking statement from owners home coz. they blamed me for providing false information, and try to threaten me of panulty of Rs. 5000/- to submit wrong information. Also, threatened me saying that once rejected i will never receive my passport.

Now, owner has denied to provide police his statement that i lived in his flat for last 3 years.

Please suggest how to proceed further, i don't want to give them bribe but i didn't have any choice. Now, file stuck in police station. They are not approving my file and neither rejecting.

1. Is it possible to reapply for passport from my homecity, if my passport got rejected and once got my file closed.
2. How to close submitted passport file.
3. I above step won't work please suggest me alternative to get my verification done.

Your urgent help is need I am frustrated of going police station waiting in long queue until 8-9 hour every time I go there.(gone 7 times already)
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5.Informed the same to police incharge, they gave me "samaj-patra" written in marathi to submit document(last 3 years rent agreement) within 30-November-2011, else file will be sent back, with some rejection note.

30th December?

well, reading your post above I don't see any other alternative then giving what police is asking. Sorry !
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First, a Rent agreement is just of the documents that can be used to prove that you have been living there for a while. What about your bank statements/Credit card bills/phone bills/gas connection receipts etc that you may have with this address? You have none of these? If you work for a reputed company, a letter issued by the company is also accepted.

In matters like these, agreeing to pay a bribe is the first mistake. And a large bribe at that, so much more so. If you have any of those above, take the whole buch and show them at the Police station. Meet the CI/ACP and explain. If you can take documentation of your City A as well.

Plenty of people belonging to city A apply and get passports from city B. You should be no different.
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hi Narendra, Thanks for reply.

I already shown them bank statement for last three years but they only want either rent agreement or owner's statement in police statement and neither is possible in my situation.

1.I am afraid if I meet CI/ACP in this case, they will question my owner for the same, for sure my owner will throw us out of flat within a day. Nothing will happen to my owner coz he brother of asst. mayor of city. I don't know why owner is not helping us out in this case.

2.Why I have chosen way to bribe is coz, here people need to go police station for verification, police don't visit candidate's address. I was having everything legal but the first year agreement, i thought it would be better option to skip this step by bribing. Only way i found suitable for my case at that time, coz owner is not supporting.

3.Now the main problem I am facing is rent agreement was written in marathi, police shown me big mistake like wrong address somewhere in middle of agreement and live license date seems back dated (I couldn't check agreement for this mistake before because i dont know marathi, and also agent didn't warn me about that, he got money and he submitted my form, I stuck in midway.). So, how should I proceed I don't know. Even police afraid to talk to my owner.
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post First, a Rent agreement is just of the documents that can be used to prove that you have been living there for a while. What about your bank statements/Credit card bills/phone bills/gas connection receipts etc that you may have with this address? You have none of these? If you work for a reputed company, a letter issued by the company is also accepted.

In matters like these, agreeing to pay a bribe is the first mistake. And a large bribe at that, so much more so. If you have any of those above, take the whole buch and show them at the Police station. Meet the CI/ACP and explain. If you can take documentation of your City A as well.

Plenty of people belonging to city A apply and get passports from city B. You should be no different.
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Originally Posted by blueneelu View Post 5.Informed the same to police incharge, they gave me "samaj-patra" written in marathi to submit document(last 3 years rent agreement) within 30-November-2011, else file will be sent back, with some rejection note.

30th December?

well, reading your post above I don't see any other alternative then giving what police is asking. Sorry !
I am ready to pay any cost to get out of this problem, but police once had a talk to my owner, but owner is strong power position police afraid of. Knowing this, agent who was coordinating me stepped out of the case.
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Your seems to be a strange case!

If I were you, first of all, I would have met the SP rank officer to redress my issue and would have explained the story. If told honestly, he would have instructed the juniors to cooperate.

There are several way to prove your occupancy.

Moreover, there are plenty of people who do not have any evidence of residence proof as very few house owners provide any receipt of rent and even then they are obtaining all short of documents including passports.

It is your right to ask for the documents from the house owner proving your occupancy of the house for more than three years. If he fails to provide it, You need not continue in such house.
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Would suggest again, meet higher officials. As long as they can be satisfied that you have lived there and are a law abiding citizen, they should send a positive report. Ask your employer to give a letter as well.
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i've known of people that just made their own agreement copies. illegal but when the owner doesnt listen to you what can one do. and it not being registered was not an issue.

I am not suggesting you take this route...

I concur with suggestions above to try to speak to a senior officer. but your having paid a bribe puts you on a sticky wicket.

The higher the rank of a police officer the more courteous and helpful they tend to be in india.
change has had its 15 minutes.... now its time for turmoil....

PS: i maybe thejag! but call me Jag...
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Originally Posted by thejag View Post i've known of people that just made their own agreement copies. illegal but when the owner doesnt listen to you what can one do. and it not being registered was not an issue.

I am not suggesting you take this route...

I concur with suggestions above to try to speak to a senior officer. but your having paid a bribe puts you on a sticky wicket.

The higher the rank of a police officer the more courteous and helpful they tend to be in india.
Thanks Jag and Narendra,

I like the idea to speak to higher official, but before doing so i will try to speak and request owner last time.

(I haven't given any bribe till now, only it was agreement with agent coordinator once the work done, police and agent would have taken big bunch out the total bribe but my work is undone till now)

I also spoke to advocate for backdated agreement but he told that it will be risky, and back date stamp is very costly, and difficult to get. Rate of Old Stamp Paper= Month Count*500+cost of stamp.. which will b too costly and illegal. risky.. I won't chose this way..

I will keep you all updated.
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Neelu, Yours is a genuine case.
Please don't try to mix it with forgery.

Use of back dated stamp becomes the case of forgery. Already people (your house owner, agent and some police personnel) know your case. Once you meet higher authorities, they would pounce upon you and your whole purpose would be defeated.

You have taken good decision by not going that way!

Our Best Wishes are with you!
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frankly unless this is a recent requirement (or specific to your area?), i havent heard of the passport office folks or cops ask for proof of address records dating back 3 years.
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Under the Guidelines on how to complete the passport form, it is written:

"COLUMNS 9 AND 10: Please give relevant details along with date since residing at the given address, telephone No. with area code is required for the purpose of contacting in case additional information or document is required by Passport Office. Mobile phone No. would be useful for sending SMS message to the applicant for the same purpose. If the period of residence given in Column 9 is less than one year on the date of application, please furnish the other addresses with duration of residence... An additional set of PP Form is to be submitted for more than one address in last one year."
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so his 2 year record is more than sufficient....
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passport issue

hi, i am too facing the same problem, once if it is rejected can we reapply from hometown. plz let me know, i m too frustrated and tensed, guys do help
thanks
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I think, let's wait to see the outcome of blueneelu's case before we give further opinion on this issue.
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