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Oct 27th, 2009, 20:28
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Travisa/Fedex lost my passport
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Oct 27th, 2009, 21:03
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That would be good but I haven't seen such an exclusion/waiver anywhere yet - everything I've seen says "surrender certificate required". Actually all I've seen about this so far is the The notice on the High Commission of India in London front page http://hcilondon.in/notice.php and the application form http://hcilondon.in/applicationform.pdf. Anybody seen anything more comprehensive on this ? The concern for me is that if this also becomes a rule in the USA, where I reside, since consular services also required this surrender certificate. I've scanned the list of consular services they provide http://hcilondon.in/counslateservice1.php - there are several we, or close friends, may use in the future, from pedestrian ones like attestation of documents ( births, marriages, wills (?) ) to more dramatic stuff like a certificate to allow transfer of human ashes. This story now has legs, for me. -skk | |
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Oct 27th, 2009, 21:30
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| "LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL"  Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NEW ORLEANS, USA
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 | NICK-H, What is OCI and also POI ?????? Sincerely, gypsie I have always sent my passport FED-x and sent the return FED-x all stamped and really had no problem getting my 10 year visa and having it returned in a weeks time, I found and find the Houston Indian Consulate very efficient. And when I used the New York City Consulate, living in Miami Beach, efficient as well. |
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Oct 27th, 2009, 21:37
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| Spoke to a babucrat at OCI dept London HCi on phone today (it takes about 15 attempts before anyone picks the phone, 2 mins each attempt before i give up on a ringing phone that is ignored. The chap on the line was helpful. he said 1) there is a backlog and where it took about 20 days for online acknowledgement of applications it is now taking more than a month. he reckoned my application which was signed for on 30/9/09 will take another 2 weeks before it is acknowledged on line. He said the postal order is valid for 6 months so no fears on that front. 2) he said that they are not returning any applications to allow for the renouncing of citizenship. he said that during the OCI process the passport department will write to you and ask for the renouncing application to be made and the resultant £90 fee. 3) as a result the whole process is taking longer. There is really nothing we can do about it. when babucrats decide, usually that decision is final and binding. I will cough up the £90 quid just to get it over and done with. They will win all the time i am afraid.
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Oct 27th, 2009, 21:46
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| g,lotus --- If you don't know, why are you reading this thread? !   Overseas Citizenship of India and Person of Indian Origin card. There's lots about them on this site, but you can also find them on you local consular site. If you are of Indian origin (or married to one who is) then you should know about them. It is surprising how many eligible people buy visas every year. |
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Oct 27th, 2009, 21:55
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Hong Kong: Talks about penalty:- http://www.indianconsulate.org.hk/ma...N=page&XID=159 Columbia: Returns your cancelled passport (Point#4):-http://www.embajadaindia.org/passportIng.htm Italy: Read the warning:- http://www.indianembassy.it/pass.htm Saudi Arabia: (A Word doc):- http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=ca South Africa: (FAQ #2):- http://www.indiainsouthafrica.com/pa...vices/FAQ.html Conclusion? MEA is literally all over the place on this issue. - There is no set standard that is followed. The words vary from "Required", "immediately" to "Please" surrender the passports. - Some return the cancelled passports, others retain it and issue "surrender certificate". - Some (like Canada) has this process built into other processes (Visa etc) - without charging a cent - Charges vary from GBP90 in London to $25 in Italy or nil(Canada). PS: There is even an online petition (for those in UK: http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petition...passports.html ) seeking to waive/scrap the fees.
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Oct 27th, 2009, 22:14
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Oct 27th, 2009, 23:10
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|  Nick-h   [QUOTE=Nick-H;846663]g,lotus --- If you don't know, why are you reading this thread? ! Overseas Citizenship of India and Person of Indian Origin card My Dear NICK-H, I just wanted to be sure, I did know. And by the way my friend died, 2005, He always knew the answers. I enjoyed his company everyday we were together. Sorry if I offened you by asking and readying the thread. Sincerely, Gypsie  |
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Oct 27th, 2009, 23:49
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|  You missed my smilies! No offence, no problem --- just seemed odd reading all those posts if you didn't know what it meant! But hey --- the BBC news site English is so bad, I often find myself reading the articles to find out what the headlines meant! Exchange of Information is what the site is about  |
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Oct 28th, 2009, 15:18
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| This is clearly a money makimg exercise. Bonus points to whoever thought up this. The tiered penalty system for travel using the Indian passport after obtaining the foreign passport is harsh and should be challenged especially it has been introduced arbitrarily, without warning and retrospectively. Furthermore why penalise travellers if you did not enforce your laws in the first place? |
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Oct 28th, 2009, 19:17
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| In Bombay  Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scarborough and Bombay
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| [QUOTE=matt67;846661] 2) he said that they are not returning any applications to allow for the renouncing of citizenship. he said that during the OCI process the passport department will write to you and ask for the renouncing application to be made and the resultant £90 fee. QUOTE] That'll be why they returned our aplication with a demand we fill in the other form and get a certificate before they'd even der our application...
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Nov 3rd, 2009, 23:46
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| Sorry to say this to the poster above. My family application today shows as acknowledged on 3/11/09 and a file number is attached (this is for all 3 members of my family) So for whoever is interested: What usually took 2 weeks to acknowledge online after receipt...is now taking 1 month and 1 week to acknowledge online. I did not renounce my citizenship (my Indian passport is expired )...so the information given by the babucrat is correct.they are not returning applications. I am not sure whta the poster above is referring to. |
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