Indian Immigration officials

greenchutney · Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:08

yeah..a committee will be formed to do that...and it will release some report which will be consigned to some shelf...

Merchant · Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:50

In "Maximum City: Bombay Lost & Found," Suketu Mehta devotes the better part of a chapter to getting a gas connection in Mumbai. His eventual solution? His elderly auntie appeals to the person at the desk to have sympathy on the poor children. How will she be able to cook for them without gas?

dzibead · Jun 22nd, 2006, 03:58

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Originally Posted by Nick-H

But you don't get into the promised land without an ECNR stamp!

Oh, and I've got a gas connection. My landlady living downstairs couldn't get one (no ration card) so her gas (from a non-governmet gas agency) costs her heaps more than mine does. I enjoy that fact

If I've got a gas connection, I wonder what chances of getting a ration card?

You have a gas connection but you're thinking of moving house? Is that prudent?

Your post made me think of stories about New Yorkers who manage to find a parking space for their car and then refuse to ever drive it for fear of never being able to find a space again!

matt67 · Apr 19th, 2007, 17:35

Coming back to the original question, you do realise dont you that the immigrations laws in india give the officer the powers to ask the questions he/she does of a traveller. So if a question about hotel booking is asked and you present a print out of a web site that will lead to the next question do you have a booking. You lie and say yes and if that officer nails your lie (its not diffcult in this day and age to phone a foreign hotel reservation (its probably based in a call centre down the road and the officer can even speak in hindi to the operator). where does that leave you then? One lie and how can he trust anything else you say. the reason these questions are aksed is because the far east is a big staging post for people trafickers. International governments are putting pressure on asian govts to tighten up their procedures and the immigration officer on the frontline is the first to get his earful from superiors about how to explain to ministers why his port is a big loophole exploited by people trafickers. So while it is easy to blame these officers bear in mind that it is also your responsibility to be on the right side of the law.

Digital Drifter · Apr 19th, 2007, 17:53

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it is also your responsibility to be on the right side of the law.

You mean, I can't take that ammo clip and that bag of hash, just like that. but, but, in the movies....

Nick-H · Apr 19th, 2007, 18:45

In the movies?

Oh, please, DD --- don't lean across the desk, grab the guy by the neck, whirl him around your head letting him fly off into the concrete wall. Then leap onto the desk, jumping from desk to desk, kick-boxing the others into unconciousness (stopping, of course ---for effect--- to give a long hard stare into the eyes of the only one to fight back, with a brief smile before headbutting him into eternity.

Who the hell will deal with the other waiting passengers if you do?

matt67 · Apr 19th, 2007, 18:56

not forgetting to say dishum dishum everytime your fist makes contact with flesh. that leads me to another question.

batistuta · Apr 19th, 2007, 19:02

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Originally Posted by matt67

Coming back to the original question, you do realise dont you that the immigrations laws in india give the officer the powers to ask the questions he/she does of a traveller. So if a question about hotel booking is asked and you present a print out of a web site that will lead to the next question do you have a booking. You lie and say yes and if that officer nails your lie (its not diffcult in this day and age to phone a foreign hotel reservation (its probably based in a call centre down the road and the officer can even speak in hindi to the operator). where does that leave you then? One lie and how can he trust anything else you say. the reason these questions are aksed is because the far east is a big staging post for people trafickers.
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Matt67, My original post was based on my mis-placed apprehensions.As other IM members mentioned at that time, there wre no questions asked ,except maybe the purpose of visit. I have not encountered any problems .I have flown abroad twice since then and they have never asked about hotel bookings. We will never go to such an extent of calling call centre agents about hotel booking.

Nick-H · Apr 19th, 2007, 19:12

It may only be a year ago, but Batistuta is an older and wiser man.

The progression from questioner to answerer is a kind of IndiMike metamorphosis for those who stick around and I'm glad that Batistuta did

Congrat's on that first thousand posts, too, Batistuta

batistuta · Apr 19th, 2007, 19:25

Thanks Nick, I am not sure about the wiser part , but older yes.

My only regret is i cannot contribute anything about travelling .My knowledge about travel places in India is Abysmal.

Totally offtopic, But Nick, Based on Your suggestions, I attended Vijaya siva's concert Yesterday and it was amazing.I look forward to the other concerts you mentioned in the Music festival thread .I will make a post about that later after all the concerts are over.

Nick-H · Apr 19th, 2007, 19:59

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My knowledge about travel places in India is Abysmal.

That makes two of us!

Glad you enjoyed Vijay Shiva

SteamBuff · Apr 19th, 2007, 20:12

The only time I have been asked for hotel information and when I intend to leave and generally given a hard time was in the US ... Give me Indian officials anyday.

matt67 · Apr 19th, 2007, 20:30

oh yeah the US immigration officials. they are a law unto themselves. And they got guns.

capt_mahajan · Apr 19th, 2007, 20:36

.. and they are often much more abrupt, even rude, with many foreigners, than the ones in India.

Mickey S · Apr 30th, 2007, 17:59

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Originally Posted by capt_mahajan

.. and they are often much more abrupt, even rude, with many foreigners, than the ones in India.

American immigration officials are appalling. It quite literally puts me off going to or through the US - but the silver lining is that I ended up discovering India and now can't stay away from the place. Second trip in six months coming up next week!

(If only you could get half-price Abercrombie & Fitch in Delhi like you can in New York then I'd be in my element!)

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Merchant Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,214	In "Maximum City: Bombay Lost & Found," Suketu Mehta devotes the better part of a chapter to getting a gas connection in Mumbai. His eventual solution? His elderly auntie appeals to the person at the desk to have sympathy on the poor children. How will she be able to cook for them without gas?

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matt67 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bath Posts: 207	Coming back to the original question, you do realise dont you that the immigrations laws in india give the officer the powers to ask the questions he/she does of a traveller. So if a question about hotel booking is asked and you present a print out of a web site that will lead to the next question do you have a booking. You lie and say yes and if that officer nails your lie (its not diffcult in this day and age to phone a foreign hotel reservation (its probably based in a call centre down the road and the officer can even speak in hindi to the operator). where does that leave you then? One lie and how can he trust anything else you say. the reason these questions are aksed is because the far east is a big staging post for people trafickers. International governments are putting pressure on asian govts to tighten up their procedures and the immigration officer on the frontline is the first to get his earful from superiors about how to explain to ministers why his port is a big loophole exploited by people trafickers. So while it is easy to blame these officers bear in mind that it is also your responsibility to be on the right side of the law.

Apr 19th, 2007, 18:45	#36
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,213	In the movies? Oh, please, DD --- don't lean across the desk, grab the guy by the neck, whirl him around your head letting him fly off into the concrete wall. Then leap onto the desk, jumping from desk to desk, kick-boxing the others into unconciousness (stopping, of course ---for effect--- to give a long hard stare into the eyes of the only one to fight back, with a brief smile before headbutting him into eternity. Who the hell will deal with the other waiting passengers if you do?

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matt67 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bath Posts: 207	not forgetting to say dishum dishum everytime your fist makes contact with flesh. that leads me to another question.

Apr 19th, 2007, 19:12	#39
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,213	It may only be a year ago, but Batistuta is an older and wiser man. The progression from questioner to answerer is a kind of IndiMike metamorphosis for those who stick around and I'm glad that Batistuta did Congrat's on that first thousand posts, too, Batistuta

Apr 19th, 2007, 19:25	#40
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,727	Thanks Nick, I am not sure about the wiser part , but older yes. My only regret is i cannot contribute anything about travelling .My knowledge about travel places in India is Abysmal. Totally offtopic, But Nick, Based on Your suggestions, I attended Vijaya siva's concert Yesterday and it was amazing.I look forward to the other concerts you mentioned in the Music festival thread .I will make a post about that later after all the concerts are over.

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SteamBuff Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Essex, Endland Posts: 373	The only time I have been asked for hotel information and when I intend to leave and generally given a hard time was in the US ... Give me Indian officials anyday.

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matt67 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bath Posts: 207	oh yeah the US immigration officials. they are a law unto themselves. And they got guns.