Indian Immigration officials

Nick-H · Jun 17th, 2006, 11:53

Mrs N is ...errr several decades older than 17. She still got ECR in her passport (She also got sex: M, but then the incompetance of the passport office and Mrs N's passport is another story, told somewhere here on IM. Some time, we'll get it changed but Mrs N isn't wild about foreign travel...)

If you have sufficient education or money they will decide they don't need to protect you.

batistuta · Jun 17th, 2006, 13:01

Thx Greenchutney ,

I will do just as you advised and get a few printouts of the
hotels.I am hopeful that the trip will go fine.
You Imers are the best!

Regards,
Batistuta.

Nick-H · Jun 17th, 2006, 13:35

Have a great trip

batistuta · Jun 19th, 2006, 11:28

Thanks Nick,

NoW That Lanka is in midst to civil war(almost)i will go to Thailand.

Regards,
Murali.

Adventurer_Prince · Jun 20th, 2006, 23:30

Hey guys , Today i went Breilly passport office because ,my passport isued from there , i used to live in Najibabad(Utter Pardesh) , near Haridwar,

well i just went Bareilly for ECNR Stamp, but i forgot my original to bring passport office ,and i showed to passport offficer my xerox copy, he ddint alow me ENCR , i did so much request , such a stupid person he was, i was arging and arguing becuase its been 7 hours jounry i went there from Delhi to Barely and i was so hungry, so u can understand , i wil go after fewdays now, i m so anger now, and then Some countries, (even i didnt know i shoud bring the original Marksheet of Senior secondry(12 class)..

hey guys , its been neo years when that passport isued , it isued 21/2/2005 abnd valid upto 20/02/2006, becouase i was supposed to go London in hurry , but there was some Genuine problome in my Family , i cudnt go,

i have a Q , will I have show there again my vilage proof, i dont know where all ,

Thank u guys

PRince Ali

greenchutney · Jun 21st, 2006, 01:06

xerox copies never work anywhere unless they are attested by a notary or accompanied by an affidavit and even with these you are at the mercy of the dark lord...

anything with indian beaurocracy, take all the papers..ALL!..originals whereever possible, or attested copies of originals if you must, be neatly dressed..not nice or ragged or flashy, give the biggest smile and be super nice..even if the bamboo is swinging in all directions...

yes..take papers of your kindgarten grades if you have those.

oh..it helps to have an politician uncle or an aunt in some govt office...

gautam_n_ · Jun 21st, 2006, 16:22

In all passposrt office across India they will refuse to do anything without the originals. Its not a beauracracy but a requirement mentioned in the form clearly. Notarized will not work either. And it doesn't mean "wherever original as possible" either. That doesn't work either. It has to be original. This is a strict policy that is actually enforced.

Even overwriting is not allowed - if you end up overwriting or scratching you have to fill out a new form.

Nick-H · Jun 21st, 2006, 18:22

For once my sympathy here is with the passport guys: how can you get a stamp in your passport without taking the passport?

batistuta · Jun 21st, 2006, 18:30

If the Ecnr conditions are not met (a secondary school leaving
certificate is minimum)they put a note called emigration
check required .
Now if you take the required documents later ,then they
put a stamp on the echeck required saying Deleted and
put new one in another page saying No echeck required.
THis takes one day ,but there is a slight catch,
You need to take your PASSPORT

Digital Drifter · Jun 21st, 2006, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

For once my sympathy here is with the passport guys: how can you get a stamp in your passport without taking the passport?

Sheeesh, man, you're thinking like the Babus. Just because I didn't bring my passport doesn't mean I shouldn't go somewhere or get my passport stamped.

It's a bit like the ration card story. If you had a ration card, you get any OTHER document based on it. Now, ration cards are only issued to people BPL (Below Poverty Line)

So conversation goes like

me: Need a gas connection
them: address proof, ration card?
me: I don't have
them: get ration card first
me: I cant get one as I'm not BPL
them: without ration card, no gas connection
me: OK, issue me ration card
them: no, you're not eligible for one
me: so, the gas connection...
them: get ration card

me, I joined the maoist rebels, last month. they had no forms to sign anyway.

greenchutney · Jun 21st, 2006, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by gautam_n_

In all passposrt office across India they will refuse to do anything without the originals. Its not a beauracracy but a requirement mentioned in the form clearly. Notarized will not work either. And it doesn't mean "wherever original as possible" either. That doesn't work either. It has to be original. This is a strict policy that is actually enforced.

yeah..an aunt in the govt, that tout outside the building and that wad of gandhi's.. <wink> <wink>

...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Drifter

me, I joined the maoist rebels, last month. they had no forms to sign anyway.

ah! you toooo.. yeah i liked that requirement. i am joining next month...i was told mao is going to resurrect/lead us to the promised land..cant wait for that. really think since mao was chinese..we need someone indianised...like rao or something....raoist rebels..better sounding!...wait..i cant be allowed to think anymore!

Nick-H · Jun 22nd, 2006, 00:11

But you don't get into the promised land without an ECNR stamp!

Oh, and I've got a gas connection. My landlady living downstairs couldn't get one (no ration card) so her gas (from a non-governmet gas agency) costs her heaps more than mine does. I enjoy that fact

If I've got a gas connection, I wonder what chances of getting a ration card?

greenchutney · Jun 22nd, 2006, 00:16

no emigration...the promised land is going to be here nick...the raoist [maoist] rebels revolution will bring that about here...and we'll all be happy, dandy...and in wonderland. and rao/mao will come back to give us that sunshine till he will replaced by the next thug..tao? taoist, maoist, raoist...mmmmmmmm

Digital Drifter · Jun 22nd, 2006, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

[...]
If I've got a gas connection, I wonder what chances of getting a ration card?

I see that this is a quick path to getting your gas connection cancelled.

the GOI may be slow in applying her weight but when she does wake from her slumber, a billion people get crushed under the paper juggernaut.

Nick-H · Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:00

Oh My God... I fear an article on Indian Govt to investigate Foreigners with Gas Connections coming up

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Jun 17th, 2006, 11:53	#16
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	Mrs N is ...errr several decades older than 17. She still got ECR in her passport (She also got sex: M, but then the incompetance of the passport office and Mrs N's passport is another story, told somewhere here on IM. Some time, we'll get it changed but Mrs N isn't wild about foreign travel...) If you have sufficient education or money they will decide they don't need to protect you.

Jun 17th, 2006, 13:01	#17
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,727	Thx Greenchutney , I will do just as you advised and get a few printouts of the hotels.I am hopeful that the trip will go fine. You Imers are the best! Regards, Batistuta.

Jun 17th, 2006, 13:35	#18
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	Have a great trip

Jun 19th, 2006, 11:28	#19
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,727	Thanks Nick, NoW That Lanka is in midst to civil war(almost)i will go to Thailand. Regards, Murali.

Jun 20th, 2006, 23:30	#20
Adventurer_Prince Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 254	Hey guys , Today i went Breilly passport office because ,my passport isued from there , i used to live in Najibabad(Utter Pardesh) , near Haridwar, well i just went Bareilly for ECNR Stamp, but i forgot my original to bring passport office ,and i showed to passport offficer my xerox copy, he ddint alow me ENCR , i did so much request , such a stupid person he was, i was arging and arguing becuase its been 7 hours jounry i went there from Delhi to Barely and i was so hungry, so u can understand , i wil go after fewdays now, i m so anger now, and then Some countries, (even i didnt know i shoud bring the original Marksheet of Senior secondry(12 class).. hey guys , its been neo years when that passport isued , it isued 21/2/2005 abnd valid upto 20/02/2006, becouase i was supposed to go London in hurry , but there was some Genuine problome in my Family , i cudnt go, i have a Q , will I have show there again my vilage proof, i dont know where all , Thank u guys PRince Ali

Jun 21st, 2006, 01:06	#21
greenchutney Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,578	xerox copies never work anywhere unless they are attested by a notary or accompanied by an affidavit and even with these you are at the mercy of the dark lord... anything with indian beaurocracy, take all the papers..ALL!..originals whereever possible, or attested copies of originals if you must, be neatly dressed..not nice or ragged or flashy, give the biggest smile and be super nice..even if the bamboo is swinging in all directions... yes..take papers of your kindgarten grades if you have those. oh..it helps to have an politician uncle or an aunt in some govt office...

Jun 21st, 2006, 16:22	#22
gautam_n_ Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Somwhere on earth Posts: 81	In all passposrt office across India they will refuse to do anything without the originals. Its not a beauracracy but a requirement mentioned in the form clearly. Notarized will not work either. And it doesn't mean "wherever original as possible" either. That doesn't work either. It has to be original. This is a strict policy that is actually enforced. Even overwriting is not allowed - if you end up overwriting or scratching you have to fill out a new form.

Jun 21st, 2006, 18:22	#23
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	For once my sympathy here is with the passport guys: how can you get a stamp in your passport without taking the passport?

Jun 21st, 2006, 18:30	#24
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,727	If the Ecnr conditions are not met (a secondary school leaving certificate is minimum)they put a note called emigration check required . Now if you take the required documents later ,then they put a stamp on the echeck required saying Deleted and put new one in another page saying No echeck required. THis takes one day ,but there is a slight catch, You need to take your PASSPORT

Jun 22nd, 2006, 00:11	#27
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	But you don't get into the promised land without an ECNR stamp! Oh, and I've got a gas connection. My landlady living downstairs couldn't get one (no ration card) so her gas (from a non-governmet gas agency) costs her heaps more than mine does. I enjoy that fact If I've got a gas connection, I wonder what chances of getting a ration card?

Jun 22nd, 2006, 00:16	#28
greenchutney Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: planet earth Posts: 1,578	no emigration...the promised land is going to be here nick...the raoist [maoist] rebels revolution will bring that about here...and we'll all be happy, dandy...and in wonderland. and rao/mao will come back to give us that sunshine till he will replaced by the next thug..tao? taoist, maoist, raoist...mmmmmmmm

Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:00	#30
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,180	Oh My God... I fear an article on Indian Govt to investigate Foreigners with Gas Connections coming up