HELP! Unable to leave India!!

Rockyp44 · May 31st, 2009, 18:23

Pls. keep us posted. It helps...

2canucks · Jun 1st, 2009, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulteaux_woman

Thanks for the reminder, no point in Trying to help. I wont bother next time.

ignore the comments...I appreciate you trying to help!

2canucks · Jun 1st, 2009, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockyp44

Pls. keep us posted. It helps...

I shall. At this point I am returning to Gujurat to try and register in my original residence city.

With these registration papers do I need an exit Visa to leave for a couple of weeks?

a_f_d · Jun 1st, 2009, 18:28

afaik if you have a Residential Permit you shouls get it stamped by the FRO to say you can go away for a couple of weeks (not leave = 'finally leave' because then you have to surrender your RP to Immigration)

AndyD 8-)#

P.S. All of this should be on your RP

hikkaduwa · Jun 3rd, 2009, 18:27

My personal experience (Bangalore not Gujarat):

1. You have to register if your visa is for more than 180 days, but you will only be asked for the RP if you really have been in India for more than 180 days. If your friend also arrived in January and left before the 180 days got over, it explained why he/she wasn't asked for the RP at the airport. Have had the same. As soon as you cross the 180 days they will ask for it and will not let you board the plane.

2. It is usually not a problem to register late, but you will have to pay a fee of (at least in Blr) USD 30,-. And you may expect a "don't do this again, it is very bad and criminal" speech from the Police Commisioner.

a_f_d · Jun 3rd, 2009, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by hikkaduwa

My personal experience (Bangalore not Gujarat):

1. You have to register if your visa is for more than 180 days, but you will only be asked for the RP if you really have been in India for more than 180 days. If your friend also arrived in January and left before the 180 days got over, it explained why he/she wasn't asked for the RP at the airport. Have had the same. As soon as you cross the 180 days they will ask for it and will not let you board the plane.

2. It is usually not a problem to register late, but you will have to pay a fee of (at least in Blr) USD 30,-. And you may expect a "don't do this again, it is very bad and criminal" speech from the Police Commisioner.

that sounds right - and thr reason for getting your RP stamped is so that you can leave the country without handing it in (assuming you are not finally leaving).

AndyD 8-)#

cyberbaba · Jun 18th, 2009, 20:35

I am on a 1 year entry visa (x visa) without having registered and have accidently crossed the 180 day mark. I am 18 days over.

I have been told by the FRRO here in Bombay to go to either the place that the visa was issued for (Pondicherry) to normalize this OR to go to The Ministry of Home Affairs in Delhi. I want to go to the correct place! Can anyone direct me?

Also, I would very much like to know if the original poster's friend had crossed the 180 day mark before boarding the plane? And what was the final out come for the O.P?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

hikkaduwa · Jun 18th, 2009, 21:05

Hi cyberbaba,

Where do you live? In Bombay or in Pondicherry? On what basis was the visa issued? For what company for example?

I know of a situation where an X visa was given for a traineeship with a certain company. The company's headoffice was in Bombay and this was also mentioned in the visa. However, this girl worked for their office in Bangalore and also lived in Bangalore. When she went to the FRO in Bangalore, they told her to register in Bombay because that was what was mentioned in her visa. But after calling Bombay they told her that she had to register in Bangalore because she lived there. Finally she got a letter from the Indian embassy that issued the visa stating that she was working in Bangalore and she could do her registration in Bangalore.

Maybe your case is similar?

I don't see why you would have to go to Delhi at all.

Hope this helps,
hikkaduwa

cyberbaba · Jun 18th, 2009, 21:50

Hi Hikkaduwa,

Thanks for your info.

I'm now living in Bombay. I was living in Pondicherry.
The visa I was given was to do voluntary work (development stuff) for an organization in Pondicherry. After arriving I realized that I didn't want to be there and so the organization never gave me the paperwork so that I could get properly registered. I was told that I just had to leave before the 180 day mark..... but I overlooked the date. damn.

I think I am just going to have to go back to the FFRO in Pondicherry and explain my story to them. With a smile, I'm sure they can normalize everything

hikkaduwa · Jun 18th, 2009, 22:04

Hi Cyberbaba,

Do I understand correctly that the visa was given for working with this NGO, but you are not working with them anymore? I would not mention this because you are supposed to "stick to your visa". If anything changes, you also have to change your visa. Same that if you have an employment visa for company X and after a month you get an offer for company Y, you have to change your visa. Not saying that people always do this, but you should.

On the other hand; you will need some papers from your organization for your registration and if they cannot give you this, it will be a problem as well. I believe you need to submit a contract, proof of address and a financial guarantee for your registration.

Good luck in Pondi. I guess it will all depend on whom is sitting behind the counter

cyberbaba · Jun 18th, 2009, 22:09

Thanks Hikkaduwa

I guess well see what happens. I'd be happy if they'd just let me leave

curtdfw · Sep 14th, 2009, 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2canucks

I'm still stuck here

Hey 2canucks,

Were you able to get this resolved? Your experience may be helpful to others...

cyberbaba · Sep 15th, 2009, 01:07

Right.

I went back to Pondicherry and explained what happened to the FRRO officer in charge.

He told me to come and see him 2 weeks before my visa expires and that he would normalize the visa. The fine: 1500 rupees. I was thrilled.

The Pondicherry FRRO office is used to dealing with foreigners and they are extremely helpful there!

Hope this helps others

hikkaduwa · Sep 15th, 2009, 01:12

Great to hear this!

Nick-H · Sep 15th, 2009, 01:21

Most Foreigner's Regional Registration Offices are used to dealing with Foreigners <smug bastard smiley goes here>

But I don't think Pondicherry has an FRRO (Delhi, Mumbau, Kolkata, Chennai, Amritsar). If it is an FRO, ie a job tagged on to a police station, then I gather that many of them are far from expert!

My quibbles are irrelevant. Glad you are getting sorted out

Jun 1st, 2009, 18:28	#19
a_f_d geek Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK etc. Posts: 240	afaik if you have a Residential Permit you shouls get it stamped by the FRO to say you can go away for a couple of weeks (not *leave* = 'finally leave' because then you have to surrender your RP to Immigration) AndyD 8-)# P.S. All of this should be on your RP Last edited by a_f_d : Jun 1st, 2009 at 18:29. Reason: postscript

Jun 18th, 2009, 20:35	#22
cyberbaba All India Permit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada/ Mumbai Posts: 227	Similar Situation! I am on a 1 year entry visa (x visa) without having registered and have accidently crossed the 180 day mark. I am 18 days over. I have been told by the FRRO here in Bombay to go to either the place that the visa was issued for (Pondicherry) to normalize this OR to go to The Ministry of Home Affairs in Delhi. I want to go to the correct place! Can anyone direct me? Also, I would very much like to know if the original poster's friend had crossed the 180 day mark before boarding the plane? And what was the final out come for the O.P? Any advice would be greatly appreciated

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Rockyp44 RP Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 252	Pls. keep us posted. It helps...

Jun 3rd, 2009, 18:27	#20
hikkaduwa Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56	My personal experience (Bangalore not Gujarat): 1. You have to register if your visa is for more than 180 days, but you will only be asked for the RP if you really have been in India for more than 180 days. If your friend also arrived in January and left before the 180 days got over, it explained why he/she wasn't asked for the RP at the airport. Have had the same. As soon as you cross the 180 days they will ask for it and will not let you board the plane. 2. It is usually not a problem to register late, but you will have to pay a fee of (at least in Blr) USD 30,-. And you may expect a "don't do this again, it is very bad and criminal" speech from the Police Commisioner.

Jun 18th, 2009, 21:05	#23
hikkaduwa Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56	Hi cyberbaba, Where do you live? In Bombay or in Pondicherry? On what basis was the visa issued? For what company for example? I know of a situation where an X visa was given for a traineeship with a certain company. The company's headoffice was in Bombay and this was also mentioned in the visa. However, this girl worked for their office in Bangalore and also lived in Bangalore. When she went to the FRO in Bangalore, they told her to register in Bombay because that was what was mentioned in her visa. But after calling Bombay they told her that she had to register in Bangalore because she lived there. Finally she got a letter from the Indian embassy that issued the visa stating that she was working in Bangalore and she could do her registration in Bangalore. Maybe your case is similar? I don't see why you would have to go to Delhi at all. Hope this helps, hikkaduwa

Jun 18th, 2009, 21:50	#24
cyberbaba All India Permit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada/ Mumbai Posts: 227	Hi Hikkaduwa, Thanks for your info. I'm now living in Bombay. I was living in Pondicherry. The visa I was given was to do voluntary work (development stuff) for an organization in Pondicherry. After arriving I realized that I didn't want to be there and so the organization never gave me the paperwork so that I could get properly registered. I was told that I just had to leave before the 180 day mark..... but I overlooked the date. damn. I think I am just going to have to go back to the FFRO in Pondicherry and explain my story to them. With a smile, I'm sure they can normalize everything

Jun 18th, 2009, 22:04	#25
hikkaduwa Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56	Hi Cyberbaba, Do I understand correctly that the visa was given for working with this NGO, but you are not working with them anymore? I would not mention this because you are supposed to "stick to your visa". If anything changes, you also have to change your visa. Same that if you have an employment visa for company X and after a month you get an offer for company Y, you have to change your visa. Not saying that people always do this, but you should. On the other hand; you will need some papers from your organization for your registration and if they cannot give you this, it will be a problem as well. I believe you need to submit a contract, proof of address and a financial guarantee for your registration. Good luck in Pondi. I guess it will all depend on whom is sitting behind the counter

Jun 18th, 2009, 22:09	#26
cyberbaba All India Permit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada/ Mumbai Posts: 227	Thanks Hikkaduwa I guess well see what happens. I'd be happy if they'd just let me leave

Sep 15th, 2009, 01:07	#28
cyberbaba All India Permit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada/ Mumbai Posts: 227	Right. I went back to Pondicherry and explained what happened to the FRRO officer in charge. He told me to come and see him 2 weeks before my visa expires and that he would normalize the visa. The fine: 1500 rupees. I was thrilled. The Pondicherry FRRO office is used to dealing with foreigners and they are extremely helpful there! Hope this helps others

Sep 15th, 2009, 01:12	#29
hikkaduwa Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56	Great to hear this!

Sep 15th, 2009, 01:21	#30
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,225	Most Foreigner's Regional Registration Offices are used to dealing with Foreigners <smug bastard smiley goes here> But I don't think Pondicherry has an FRRO (Delhi, Mumbau, Kolkata, Chennai, Amritsar). If it is an FRO, ie a job tagged on to a police station, then I gather that many of them are far from expert! My quibbles are irrelevant. Glad you are getting sorted out