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Applying for an Indian tourist visa in Bangkok
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Hi all. Missus Rogue and I recently applied for an Indian tourist visa in Bangkok and as non-thai-residents (NTR) we thought you might like to hear of our experiences. Firstly, a bit of background: we applied for an Indian visa in London (we're British residents) in early January this year. It was a mildly irritating process of confusion and barely-controlled chaos, but it wasn't too bad. The whole process took about 2.5 hours, discounting the short period where we went across the road for lunh at Pret-a-Manger in Aldwych (we were treating ourselves, as anyone who knows about this rather costly sandwich shop chain will appreciate). Staff were, in the main, friendly and helpful if a little harassed. We left happy and relieved that the process was so relatively easy. Fast forward nine months. After a fantastic trip through the subcontinent and a stunner in South-East Asia, we decided that we weren't quite ready to go home yet, and to go back to India for Christmas. Being in Thailand, the best place to do this is obviously Bangkok. Here starts the lesson: We arrived at the Indian Embassy (Soi Asoke/23, Sukhumvit, Bangkok. Skytrain Station Asoke, Exit three, first left off Sukhumvit, 15-minute walk) only to be handed a sheet of paper telling us the following: Quote:
After a not-too-long wait, we handed in our applications, paid our fees (a total of 2,680 baht each, and went off to explore Bangkok. Again. The guy who handled my application was friendly, knowledgeable and professional, but Mrs. Rogue was not so impressed with her consular assistance. A week later, we arrived at the visa centre before 11 am (as we had been told, although I believe it's now 10 am - check this) and were again frisked by security. This time, they took my lighter, but not Mrs. Rogue's, my bag, but not Mrs. Rogue's Rogue's camera but not mine and didn't bother with my Swiss Army knife. Call that equal opportunities? ![]() Anyway, we handed in our passports after the usual ticket-wait and bugered off for some lunch. We were told to come back between 15:30 and 17:00 even though the sign on the wall said 15:00 - 16:30. We decided to compromise and got there about ten minutes after three. Ticket-wait again, then after about 45 minutes when our number was called, we got to the front of the queue to be told that our passports had not arrived yet and there would be a further 50-minute wait. That turned out to be fairly accurate. Anyway, we got our passports and our visas and we're going to India on Wednesday. Hurrah! But I don't understand the justification for this. It's supposed to increase efficiency, but you pay 480THB more for the same service. And most of the staff don't know what they're doing. I hope this saves you a few hours. RogueII
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"increasing efficiency" has become a meaningless phrase used by marketing and 'management' (in itself an increasingly meaningless word!) types to justify their actions.
Like "For your own safety" it is a trump card, and allows of no further demand for justification, or argument. Words like this are always chucked around a lot when the outsourcing thing happens, because it will have been these management/consultancy/marketing types that dreamt the whole thing up and made the deal. There is no requirement for actions taken under these headings to have anything to do with safety or efficiency! It is an incurable disease. Hopefully, the machinery may work better when it is less new. Thanks for posting the current situation and procedure. I'd like to make the thread sticky and shorten the title, if that's ok with you, so that it stands out. It could be useful to quite a few people.
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Sure, it's OK if you want to shorten the title. I tried to include as much usable information as possible.
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Oh, for Thai residents (including legally-resident expats*) the process is much the same, but it's 400 baht cheaper and the time-lapse between initial application and visa issue is 24 hours. Thai residents collect the day after application.
I don't know whether the paperwork required is different, but I'd assume that you need,at the very east, your work permit or retirement visa. *If you're not sure whether this applies to you, it doesn't. You don't forget easily the process of becoming a legal resident of Thailand. |
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How long was visa?
Hi Rogue pair,
Very informative entry. I can thoroughly relate. My wife and I (plus often one of our adult age daughters) regularly apply for tourist visas from our home country - Australia, and alternately - Sri Lanka, both Kandy and Colombo. But not Bangkok (yet) ![]() I was jsut confirming that the visa you were granted was for 6mth. Don't think this is a stupid question, sometimes 3mth only is given. Hope to hear from you soon, Dain |
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n00b
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Hi Dain.
Yes, it was a six-month multiple entry (number of entries unspecified, so I assume unlimited) visa, the same as I got in London in January this year. They ask you to specify length of stay, so I just told them six months. |
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Here in Bangkok, it takes 5 working days to get a visa if you are not a Thai or Resident. Ex-pats without resident visa (retirement, etc.) wait 5 days. In Monday am, out Friday afternoon. Very smooth process once you're in the door. Expensive, though, and, you need to have 2 photos with blue background. They have a photograph service on premises which charges an outrageous 250 Baht for the 2 photos. What to do? They won't accept white background photos. 3100 Baht for a 6 month multiple entry visa. No longer give 1 year visas. Plus 480 service charge. Sawatdee Khrap!
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Thanks to the Rogue's
You have saved me heaps of blundering about and the long sweaty march down Soi 23 ! does any one know if the 5 working days it takes to process is exclusive or inclusive of drop off and pick up days : drop Monday morning would mean pick up on same friday or following Monday ? |
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If you process in the morning on Monday, you pick it up on Friday.
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If you wait until later than day 5 to come get the visa, what day is the visa actually issued? Day 5, or the day that you bring your passport to pick up the new visa? Since the six month clock starts ticking with the day the visa is issued, I would really appreciate info on this, as it effects my travel plans. Thanks!
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This is my guess: the visa will begin the day they print it.
That could be anything between day 1 and day n, the day you collect it. Do you leave the passport with them? |
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You just solved the mystery, Nick. You only leave the application with them and return with your passport on Day 5. Everything is stamped then. I had forgotten about that.
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