Upgradation Of Class

There is a checkbox mentioning Upgradation Of Class.. What is this?

Is this helpful?

Does we need to check this checkbox? What will happen if we check this.

I thought you had to check the checkbox if you DIDN'T want to be considered for Upgradation Of Class.

If your ticket is waitlisted and there are available berths in a higher class, you have the chance of being upgraded (free) to a higher class.

You have to tick the checkbox to be considered for upradation to a higher class (free of cost)

In case of online reservation, there is a checkbox in the reservation page which remains ticked by default. In case you do NOT want to be auto-upgraded, you have to click there to remove the tick mark.

Ah, that explains it, I knew you had to do something or you'd be automatically considered for a free upgrade.

The free upgrade would be great, but if you're travelling in a group, it may be worth taking yourself off the free upgrade option as the group could be split into different classes/carriages.

For those interested, you can be upgraded by up to 2 classes.

Steven,

My understanding is that a waitlisted ticket is confirmed in the booked class and a passenger with the confirmed ticket from the booked class is upgraded to a higher class.

Up-gradation needs two conditions to be met simultaneously:

1. Vacancy in upper class
2. Wait list in lower class

Once I had booked a ticket for Sealdah-New Delhi Rajdhani well in advance in II AC, upon reaching the station, I found that a passenger who had been upgraded to II AC from III AC was occupying my berth. I checked and was pleasantly surprised to find that I had been upgraded to the I AC. That was my most comfortable train travel experience

Thanks for that, and glad I'm wrong, it seems much fairer that way.

I assume you would only get upgraded if all passengers on the same ticket could be upgraded.

Sorry but no, that's not quite correct. Both RAC/WL passengers (Whose tickets were confirmed at the time of chart preparation) as well as passengers who bought confirmed tickets even in the beginning are considered for auto-upgradation. This can be ascertained by going to http://www.indianrail.gov.in/upgrade...gers_List.html and entering a train number (Of which the chart has already been prepared - for example, yesterday's 2627). You will usually find that a mix of CNF, RAC and WL passengers have been upgraded.

Very interesting, and thanks for the link.

Out of interest, is NAMRATA a male or female name?

(I ask because he/she was upgraded into a 1A coupe (2 berth) instead of a 4-berth cabin.)

Its female.

Damn this distortion of English: There is no such word as upgradation

This is quite interesting thread.

I was looking into train # 2301 (HWH NDLS Rajdhani), and saw that for yesterday's (2 Dec) charting, there were 10 upgrades. 5 were from 2A to 1A, and rest from 3A to 2A.

I have now checked today's (+5 days) availability position, and the charting is not yet done.

S.No. Date (DMY) Class - 1A Class -2A
1 3-12-2010 WL 21/WL 6 WL 88/WL 13
2 4-12-2010 WL 21/WL 10 WL 132/WL 36
3 6-12-2010 WL 16/WL 4 WL 59/WL 9
4 7-12-2010 WL 17/WL 11 WL 33/WL 14
5 8-12-2010 WL 20/WL 2 WL 59/WL 9
6 9-12-2010 WL 12/WL 8 WL 24/WL 10

1AC being all WL, would we not see any upgrades from 2A/3A to 1A for these days? Or after releasing of the HQ quota and other quotas, if there is any blank seat, on those there will be upgrades?

I am just trying to figure out, if buying an early wait list of a lower class would give one a reasonable probability to get upgraded to higher class for free - and the other factors influencing the decision!!

P.S. Found that HQ Quota is 10 for 1A in this train in question, and GN Quota is 25.

2301 availability for today.

Tatkal 2A = WL7 (WL8 is offered, so 7 waitlisted tickets sold)
Foreign Tourist 1A = 1, 2A = 4
Defence 2A = 2
HO 1A = 10, 2A = 33

Total available 1A = 11, 2A = 39
total waitlists 1A = WL5, 2A = WL20 (12 + 7 Tatkal)

I can find RAC18 so I'll assume RAC goes up to 20 places, so 10 available berths are needed to get 20 RAC passengers into confirmed berths.

Everyone should get on, so no need for upgrades.

Possibly the other passenger of that coupe is also a woman.
Two observations I note:
1) Passengers upgraded to 1A are almost always given the upper berth. So I guess an original 1A passenger is given priority over an upgraded one. I'd be very miffed if I were a 1A passenger getting a UB and finding that an upgraded passenger got the LB! What is amusing is very often they get the upper in cabin F, so it reads CABIN-F U . However, in other classes this (upper berth selection) doesn't happen, probably because charting is done automatically for them.
2) Do newer 1A coaches (Not LHB ones) seat more passengers than the traditional ones? As far as I know, full 1A coaches seated 18 (3 cabins A, B, F and 3 coupes C, D, E). However, the example given earlier (Of yesterday's 2627) has somebody being upgraded to Cabin-G.

I would hope that they allocate berths to confirmed passengers before even considering upgraded passengers, I would be really annoyed if I was travelling with my GF and we were given a cabin, and then I found out 2 upgraded passengers were given a coupe, ooohhh, steam would be coming from my ears.

Ha Ha, I laughed so loud when I read that and woke my GF up, she'd not happy and I'll have to make her some breakfast now.

Well spotted, and I wasn't aware of any (non LHB) higher capacity 1A carriages, can you imagine if this was an error, and the upgraded passenger was walking up and down looking for cabin G.