Train information (support thread)

steven_ber · Mar 15th, 2005, 01:34

I've got a few photos in my 'gallery', here's one, and another.

Have you been to Tippong Colliery?

medulla · Mar 30th, 2005, 02:00

thanks right now you are THE most helpful person in the entire universe i have spent all day trying to get a copy of trains at a glance!

steven_ber · Mar 30th, 2005, 02:43

Hi Medulla and welcome to indiamike.com

S. D. Enterprises sell them in London.

If you come out of Wembley Park station (Jubilee line trains are not stopping there at the moment), turn right, follow the road, you come to their shop.

They sell them for about £3:50 (=US$5), although you can download most of it free over the Internet, it is much better to have the book.

S.D. Enterprises would probibly send one through the post for a total of about £5:00, they should have some left, I bought one from them a couple of weeks ago.

machadinha · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven_ber

you can download most of it free over the Internet

Where exactly? That would be handy. The Indian Rails site I find impossible to deal with somehow, then again I haven't had the incentive to really try.

soulfood · Mar 30th, 2005, 03:42

I won't do it. "Trains at Glance" isn't easy to use either

This page usually gives me all the answers I need: http://www.indianrail.gov.in/inet_metro_trns.html

steven_ber · Mar 30th, 2005, 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulfood

I won't do it. "Trains at Glance" isn't easy to use either

You can get all the timetables from 'Trains At A Glance' at the following website.

http://203.197.214.122/railways/timetable/home.htm

For table 32A look in the 'Sampart kranti' link.

These tables are very difficult to understand without a route map, sadly the website didn't include one.

I've scanned mine, Top & Bottom.

SHIMLA · Mar 30th, 2005, 07:24

Steven,

Any idea whether all the Sampark Kranti trains included in TAAG have been introduced?

steven_ber · Mar 30th, 2005, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHIMLA

Steven,

Any idea whether all the Sampark Kranti trains included in TAAG have been introduced?

All are running except 2.

The Kerala S.K. departs from Kochuveli today for it's first journey, Kochuveli is a brand new station in Trivandrum.

The return S.K. departs from Nizamuddin on the 4th April.

I can't find any info about the S.K. to Jammu/Udhampur, this service will probably start when the new line to Udhampur is opened, I had read about a month ago that the line was ready to be opened, but haven’t heard anything since.

soulfood · Mar 30th, 2005, 13:31

The Nizammudin-Yeshwantpur (Bangalore) Sampark Kranti started on Oct 2nd last year and is the best train for Delhi-Bangalore. It's clean, you tend to get confirmed reservation even a day before departure (as against a month for Karnataka Exp) and it even takes less time than KK. Perfect train for Delhi to Bangalore or back.

SHIMLA · Mar 30th, 2005, 14:08

Thanks Steven and soulfood, for the info.

Examining this concept of a Sampark Kranti Express, its supposed to be a train linking the state capital/ important town of a state to the national capital. These trains haven't been provided a commercial halt outside their state of origin, ie. the Maharashtra SK Exp. has no commercial halt outside Maharashtra, the Andhra SK Exp. has no commercial halt outside Andhra, etc.

One can safely take it then, that the SK Exp. has to be the next fastest after the Rajdhani Express. Given this, the Maharashtra SK Exp. is something of a joke - it covers the distance between Bandra Terminus and H. Nizamuddin in 22 hours 40 mins !!! This is slower than the Golden Temple Mail, which covers the same distance in 21 hours 35 mins, with innumerable commercial halts on the way !!

soulfood · Mar 30th, 2005, 15:18

No stopppages outside their main state doesn't really make any sense to me. As it is, the Bangalore SK already stops at every station that Karnataka Exp does (although the route is slightly different). Why not make them official stops and earn revenue from passengers for those stations...?

The Bangalore SK takes about 38 hours as against Karnataka's 40 and Rajdhani's 34.

SHIMLA · Mar 30th, 2005, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulfood

No stopppages outside their main state doesn't really make any sense to me. As it is, the Bangalore SK already stops at every station that Karnataka Exp does (although the route is slightly different). Why not make them official stops and earn revenue from passengers for those stations...?

I agree; its quite stupid that a geographical boundary should determine the stops for a train, rather than passenger traffic density!

The Maharashtra SK Express crosses the state boundary within just 140 kms. of its run from Bandra Terminus and hence has no stop after Borivali !

The Uttar Pradesh SK Express has 567 kms. out of its total run of 702 kms. within the state of U.P. , hence halts at Chitrakoot, Banda, Harpalpur, Jhansi, Agra Cantt. and Mathura !!!!

Strange logic !!!

machadinha · Apr 1st, 2005, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven_ber

You can get all the timetables from 'Trains At A Glance' at the following website.

http://203.197.214.122/railways/timetable/home.htm

Excellent! About as hard to navigate as the real thing yes, I remember the many hours trying to plan a route

Still, invaluable once you come to grips with it.

medulla · Apr 4th, 2005, 21:29

hi i just book a ticket to where i thought was new dehli but having checked again i realise i am going to a place called Nizzamuddin. Any idea of the distance between the two places as it is not covered in my trusty lonely planet guide cheers!

SHIMLA · Apr 4th, 2005, 21:39

Hazrat Nizamuddin is the terminus in South Delhi - its 8 kms from New Delhi station.

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Mar 30th, 2005, 02:43	#93
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: South of England. Posts: 11,562	Hi Medulla and welcome to indiamike.com S. D. Enterprises sell them in London. If you come out of Wembley Park station (Jubilee line trains are not stopping there at the moment), turn right, follow the road, you come to their shop. They sell them for about £3:50 (=US$5), although you can download most of it free over the Internet, it is much better to have the book. S.D. Enterprises would probibly send one through the post for a total of about £5:00, they should have some left, I bought one from them a couple of weeks ago.

Mar 30th, 2005, 03:42	#95
soulfood Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Delhi Posts: 467	I won't do it. "Trains at Glance" isn't easy to use either This page usually gives me all the answers I need: http://www.indianrail.gov.in/inet_metro_trns.html

Mar 30th, 2005, 13:31	#99
soulfood Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Delhi Posts: 467	The Nizammudin-Yeshwantpur (Bangalore) Sampark Kranti started on Oct 2nd last year and is the best train for Delhi-Bangalore. It's clean, you tend to get confirmed reservation even a day before departure (as against a month for Karnataka Exp) and it even takes less time than KK. Perfect train for Delhi to Bangalore or back.

Mar 30th, 2005, 14:08	#100
SHIMLA Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yangon, MYANMAR Posts: 4,126	Thanks Steven and soulfood, for the info. Examining this concept of a Sampark Kranti Express, its supposed to be a train linking the state capital/ important town of a state to the national capital. These trains haven't been provided a commercial halt outside their state of origin, ie. the Maharashtra SK Exp. has no commercial halt outside Maharashtra, the Andhra SK Exp. has no commercial halt outside Andhra, etc. One can safely take it then, that the SK Exp. has to be the next fastest after the Rajdhani Express. Given this, the Maharashtra SK Exp. is something of a joke - it covers the distance between Bandra Terminus and H. Nizamuddin in 22 hours 40 mins !!! This is slower than the Golden Temple Mail, which covers the same distance in 21 hours 35 mins, with innumerable commercial halts on the way !!

Mar 30th, 2005, 15:18	#101
soulfood Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Delhi Posts: 467	No stopppages outside their main state doesn't really make any sense to me. As it is, the Bangalore SK already stops at every station that Karnataka Exp does (although the route is slightly different). Why not make them official stops and earn revenue from passengers for those stations...? The Bangalore SK takes about 38 hours as against Karnataka's 40 and Rajdhani's 34.

Apr 4th, 2005, 21:29	#104
medulla Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: london Posts: 11	hi i just book a ticket to where i thought was new dehli but having checked again i realise i am going to a place called Nizzamuddin. Any idea of the distance between the two places as it is not covered in my trusty lonely planet guide cheers!

Apr 4th, 2005, 21:39	#105
SHIMLA Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yangon, MYANMAR Posts: 4,126	Hazrat Nizamuddin is the terminus in South Delhi - its 8 kms from New Delhi station.