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Dave W Jan 9th, 2013 18:38

Train fares to increase from 21/01/2013
 
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...?homepage=true

It's not clear from this article whether the extra fares will be payable on tickets already booked.

Prakaant Jan 9th, 2013 19:18

Also please see the news item in the Hindustan Times.

This hike is all around.

AC 2 tier and AC First Class have become further costlier by 6 paise and 3 paise per km respectively.
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Originally Posted by Dave W (Post 1529696)
It's not clear from this article whether the extra fares will be payable on tickets already booked.

It has been practice in the Railways to collect differences of fare from the commuters, even if the tickets are booked.

Let's see how the government reacts on the protests against the hike...

Dave W Jan 9th, 2013 19:23

:(. How much is 140,000 paise?

Prakaant Jan 9th, 2013 19:25

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Originally Posted by Dave W (Post 1529713)
How much is 140,000 paise?

It would be INR 1,400 = 25.58 US Dollar at today's rate

Dave W Jan 9th, 2013 19:27

That's not so bad then. I hope that the TTEs will have change.

Prakaant Jan 9th, 2013 19:33

It is first hike in 10 years, but it should have been in stages...

misha1976 Jan 9th, 2013 22:41

$10 says they back down and re-introduce it incrementally. This is India. There will be demonstrations. For us expats/visitors, not a big deal. For people from villages who rely on the network... good luck with that. Sticker shock.

steven_ber Jan 9th, 2013 23:52

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Originally Posted by Prakaant (Post 1529719)
It is first hike in 10 years, but it should have been in stages...

I thought AC fares went up in the last budget.

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Train fares to increase from 21/01/2013
Very surprised at the timing,just under 5 weeks before the rail budget, is this allowed?

21st May till 26th June, could this be big holiday season in India?, that's the period ticket price increase sales would roll into the bank before the budget speech, surely this is about more than that?????

aloke_m Jan 9th, 2013 23:57

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Originally Posted by steven_ber (Post 1529829)
I thought AC fares went up in the last budget.



Very surprised at the timing,just under 5 weeks before the rail budget, is this allowed?

21st May till 26th June, could this be big holiday season in India?, that's the period ticket price increase sales would roll into the bank before the budget speech, surely this is about more than that?????

It is possible that the increase in fares may be levied retrospectively - ie anybody travelling on/after 21/01 will have to pay the difference of fare on the train irrespective of when it happened. With the previous increase in fares (only 1A/2A) the difference was levied retrospectively on tickets purchased before the fare increase. I had to pay INR 309 extra on one train because of this.

Dave W Jan 9th, 2013 23:57

Steven

My guess is that finally somebody has been prepared to grasp the nettle. Indian Railways are broke and desperately need to improve their revenue. The Minister last year realised that but Ms Bannerjee stabbed him in the back for political reasons. Now she has no say in the railways and common sense appears to have won out.

Dave W Jan 10th, 2013 02:22

Here's what the Hindustan Times thinks about it, as quoted on iri.

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In February 2009 as he delivered his last railway budget, rail minister Lalu Prasad slashed already low ticket prices, calling himself a "friend of the people." His successor Mamata Banerjee followed in his footsteps. "I am the common man, and can never hurt the common man,"she instead asserted, typically mixing up gender and grammar in her earthy and effective oratorical style. And when Dinesh Trivedi, Banerjee's appointee as rail minister, announced a rail hike in February last year, she sacked him, replacing him with confidante Mukul Roy, who immediately rolled back the fare increase. Since the last rail fare hike in 2002, and now, four rail ministers have steadfastly refused to increase the cost of rail travel, all insisting that they were benefactors of the "aam aadmi" that now has a political party named after him. Meanwhile, the railways bled over Rs. 10,000 crore a year in losses that the common man - the taxpayer - was in any case paying for. These rail ministers belonged to different parties, often at loggerheads with each other. But they share the common flexibility that smaller allies in a multi-party coalition enjoy - the opportunity to reap the larger political benefits of avoiding economic decisions that could hurt politically, but are inevitable and necessary in the long run in a market economy. Congressman Pawan Kumar Bansal, who announced the fare hike on Wednesday, affecting millions across India, is the first rail minister belonging to the main political party heading a ruling coalition, since the BJP came to power in 1998. Between 2002 and now, an average Indian's education expenses, food bill, house rent and air fare costs have all at least doubled, pushed up by the laws of economics and steady inflation. But politics - and not economics - have determined the fare the railways charge the 24 million passengers who use their services daily. Mamata Banerjee of the Trinamool Congress, Ram Vilas Paswan of the Lok Janshakti Party and Nitish Kumar of the Janata Dal (United) held the railways portfolio during the BJP-led NDA's six-year tenure between 1998 and 2004. Kumar was the minister who last hiked rail fares, in February 2002, but he kept the fares constant in 2003 - months ahead of the Lok Sabha elections. Lalu Prasad, rail minister through UPA-1, and Banerjee and Roy in UPA-2, also refused to hike fares, while continuing the tradition of increasing trains, especially to their home states. These moves have connected more people, without any apparent extra financial burden on them. But they have also brought the railways to a financial status that in the private sector would be akin to bankruptcy.

steven_ber Jan 10th, 2013 02:32

So, 534km in 2A would add an additional Rs32, is that correct?

Dave W Jan 10th, 2013 02:37

Give or take 4 paise.

zamba Jan 10th, 2013 17:16

to put it in perspective, about 60cents au. I think we as tourists can afford this but not so sure the locals will see it that way. Zamba.

misha1976 Jan 10th, 2013 18:12

Yeah on the 'common' people getting a very serious sticker shock. At the risk of getting in to politics (which this is about because, as has been said, for foreigners, this means nothing), this government's always had to straddle a fine line between it's neo-liberal/business-friendly policies and friends and it's pro-rural poor populism. The past few years they seem to have had problems doing so.

I'm curious how this will play out given how important rail is in this country.


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