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who cant help?
how to book lower berth in sleeper train?
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Just tell the guy at the booking office you want a lower berth . But why would you book a lower berth ? In my opinion it's better to have an upper berth so you can get up there and sleep or relax anytime. The lower berth will be used as a seat by everyone during the day.
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Originally Posted by spike View Post Just tell the guy at the booking office you want a lower berth . But why would you book a lower berth ? In my opinion it's better to have an upper berth so you can get up there and sleep or relax anytime. The lower berth will be used as a seat by everyone during the day.
thank you spike for answer

because i like to sit by the window
also i cant put my back pack below the berth
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Piet, as already noted in the daytime all passengers sit on the lower berth anyway. The middle one (if there is one, not in higher classes I think) gets tucked up to form your back cushion. The top one can be used to store luggage on or to lie on. At night, the middle one goes down (well, up, really) to form a third berth.

I found there are advantages and disadvantages to all of the berths. The lower one is obviously easily accessible (to pickpockets and guys looking to harass women as well it might be added); an obvious downpoint on the lower and middle berths is you're dependent on your fellow passenger's sleeping times (typically early sleepers & risers).

All passengers will store their gear under the lower berth; there are handles provided which you can chain your pack to if you want. On the top berth I'd use my pack as a pillow & chain that up to the berth structure. (Talking Sleeper Class, or lower class here.)

There's a system to who gets the window seat, I don't remember, I think it's the upper berth, to compensate for their supposedly unluxurious position I guess. This is obviously open to negotiation with your fellow passengers.

Have fun. As noted, when booking your seat you'll have to fill in a reservation form (standing in line, go get this form first, it will usually be in (a) box(es) around the room, or get it at the counter; fill it in while waiting, or you'll be given it when it's your turn & you'll have to stand in line twice. Always assuming it still works like that today btw); you can specify on it what berth you want. This doesn't guarantee you'll get it, it depends on availability.

btw Note the difference in English between "can" (affirmative) and "can't" (negative)
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thanks for advice

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btw For more on train classes and their layout, see also the bottom of the first post on this (excellent) thread Train information .
It also leads on to http://www.seat61.com/India.htm where there are some pictures and heaps of other info on the various classes.
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In the printed requisition form of reservation, there is a colmn. for option about the berth viz. LB, MB, UB, SL or SU. But allotment is dependent on availability.Sr. citizens i.e. age above 60 yrs. automatically get lower berths if available.
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thanks for helping tasuray

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Understanding Reservation Forms. (includes seat/berth layouts)
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SOS: Missing Person...

Please look at this thread, even if you are not in India.: Have you seen Jonathan Spollen?

He could be anywhere now: You might have met him, be able to help, or give information.
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Just in case there's any doubt remaining about which berth to prefer, definitely seek the upper berth. You'll be able to sit with a window view during the day if you want to. Also note that the windows in AC cars are frosted for UV and glare, so that the world outside looks like a pale green to sepia version, somehow distanced and abstracted. The best way to get a view is to stand between cars...

Also, just to emphasize the luggage point: you'll be able to stow your luggage under the lower berth. There's metal loops there intended for attachment of a chain and lock. Your luggage will be just as secure whether you're on the lower berth or up top. And on a long journey you'll be very grateful to able to retire to your berth for a nap during the day.
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Actually the lower berth gets the window seat, the upper berth is by the gangway (as Steven points out in the thread he links to above, the Southern Railway layout diagram is wrong for Sleeper Class).

However it's pretty common for passengers to swap berths and/or seats by mutual agreement, so if you're not by the window and someone who is doesn't seem interested in the view, it might be worth asking if you can swap seats.
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Originally Posted by spike View Post Just tell the guy at the booking office you want a lower berth . But why would you book a lower berth ? In my opinion it's better to have an upper berth so you can get up there and sleep or relax anytime. The lower berth will be used as a seat by everyone during the day.
Some of us have physical problems getting up to the upper berth and back down again ... I agree that the upper berth is preferable, but can no longer use it. Luckily, I have other defenses.
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A little info some may not be aware of...

There is now a 'Lower Berth Quota', it's a small quota and there is a small charge, but if you really want a lower berth, it is an option.

Like any quota, it's on a 'first come, first served' basis.

Look for it in the drop-down list next to Enter Quota.

I wonder if Indian Railways will ever introduce the Thai system where you can choose your own berth?

The Thai system charges more for (slightly wider) lower berths.
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Steven, do you mean that I can do this in an online booking???? I see only a choice of "General" and "Ladies" quota - no dropdown list.....
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Originally Posted by Baba View Post Steven, do you mean that I can do this in an online booking???? I see only a choice of "General" and "Ladies" quota - no dropdown list.....
Good point, I didn't realise it wasn't available for booking on-line.

The drop-down menu is on the normal Indian Railways website, so I guess we can only use this quota when booking over the counter in India.

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