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#1 Apr 9th, 2007, 14:25
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Has anyone of you travelled in the AC-First class? I have never gone beyond 2A (AC- Second) and would like to know what is it that 1A has that 2A does not? I know the first class compartments of yore had coupes with four berths. IS the 1A similar? Or does it have coupes with 2 berths?
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I've travelled once in 1AC, first of all the compartment had a partition wall and a door you could lock, instead of the curtains in 2AC.
The bed was a little wider and thicker and I was lucky enough to get a two bedded compartment instead of four (this varies and As I understand it it purely the luck of the draw whether you end up in a foor berth or two berth cabin) The two berth cabins had a fold down table and two chairs!
One other useful thing was a shower in the shared toilets but I'm not sure if all 1AC carriages have this!
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Thanks cyberhippie. Would you know how many two berth cabins comprise the compartment? And if we can insist on a two berth cabin at the time of booking? I am booking tickets for an english couple who are in india on a visit and who need some ..erm... privacy. thought the 1a could give them the 'privacy' they seek.
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Steven Ber can better advise but as far as I know there is no way to pre book a two bedded cabin the Cabins are alotted later when it as ascertained the make up of the passenger list in this class.

Like I say, Steven will put you straight if I've gotten it wrong above!

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I think they tend to give the 2-berth coupes to couples, but there is no guarantee, and they cannot be insisted upon. Mr Ber is the expert in such matters!
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Recently I have travelled a couple of times by 1A between Jodhpur and Delhi - definitely quieter and more comfortable - berth more like a single bed, carpet on the floor, small washbasin in coupe. But not necessarily cleaner.. just o.k. From what I remember there was only one 2 berth and that was near the entrance - my 1A was half a bogie shared with 2A starting in the middle. Maybe a full carriage of 1A could have 2x2 berths? I had a 4 berth coupe all to myself until I reached Jaipur when a very high up Police officer came on with 8 high-ranking police to make up his bed. It was a day journey but my peace was shattered by the constant ringing of his mobile because of some emergency he had to attend to!
Locking the door - sometimes this works, sometimes the lock is broken - no guarantee! Also, interruptions - ticket inspector,chai wallah, mineral water, man to take food order, checking if you want food even though you didn't order,snacks, cold drinks etc. coffee wallah... Depending on train departure time, no interruptions throughout the night until early morning i.e. around 6.30 a.m. with chai wallah!
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If your over 60 the 30% discount applies in this class as well, which is quite a saving!
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Originally Posted by kaalia View Post Has anyone of you travelled in the AC-First class? I have never gone beyond 2A (AC- Second) and would like to know what is it that 1A has that 2A does not? I know the first class compartments of yore had coupes with four berths. IS the 1A similar? Or does it have coupes with 2 berths?
What train are you thinking of booking, and from where to where?
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Oh hello Steven. I plan to book tickets from Vijayawada to Hyderabad on the Narsapur-Hyderabad express (7255). It is a 6 hour night journey. The timing fits perfectly with their schedule.
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I have requested and travelled by coupe, but this was five or six years ago.

Dont think there is a guarantee you will get it, though.
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A little bit of playing around in IRCTC and I have come to the conclusion that thr 1a has 6 berths in all. This means one 4 berth cabin and one 2 berth.
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Sorry, little time to reply......

I did a quick check on the Indian Railways website and the Godavari Exp. has at least 12 berths in 1A, the site crashed before I could do any further checks.

The Godavari has similar good timings arriving at Vijay at 23:45, departing at 00:05 (be careful with the booking date) and getting to Hyderabad (or was it Secunderabad, cant remember) at 06:15. (double check, thats just from my short term memory).

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I am quite sure that even now, there are about 18 berths in a bogie, ie at least 4 compartments each with 4 berths, and 1 coupe.

I have also travelled by HA1, a bogie with half the length 1AC, and the other half 2AC, from Hyderabad to Delhi.
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Look here to see the layout of the berths, a full 1A carriage has 18 berths, a 1A/2A carriage has 10 1A berths.

So the Godavari Exp. must have a full 1A carriage.

One thing I've noticed over the years, First Class (AC and Non AC) often have berths reserved for the 'Defence quota', so this may help to explain why there always seems to be a strange number of available berths, even when you check 3 months in advance.
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Originally Posted by kaalia View Post A little bit of playing around in IRCTC and I have come to the conclusion that thr 1a has 6 berths in all. This means one 4 berth cabin and one 2 berth.
This probibly means the Narsapur-Hyderabad express only has half a carriage of 1A (and only one 2-berth coupe), but the Godavari has a full carriage, so 3 coupes.
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