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#331 Jun 11th, 2014, 02:31
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post Steve: No Photos?
No, I was sort of there for work, and didn't take a camera or phone.

There should be plenty of photos on the net, but if I remember right (from 12 years ago) there's 2 different kinds of non ac 2nd class sleeper, one lot of carriages come from Japan, the other lot from somewhere else (maybe home built).

This photo perhaps best shows the class (it's identical across the carriage, like 2 rows of side berths, the track is metre gauge so trains are narrow).

The whole of the backrests come down to create the mattress (no hard centre bits like 2A or 3A side berths), and a section comes down from the ceiling for the narrower (and cheaper) upper berth, I'm 5' 11 tall and fitted nicely into the berth, and the berth is REALLY wide, all berths have full curtains, the train staff come and make-up everyone's beds, pillows, sheets and blanket supplied free, a real cosy way to travel.

Bangkok-Chiang Mai is a 15 hour journey and cost about Rs750. and I feel the cost of living is maybe 20-30% higher in Thailand, so putting this class only slightly more expensive than sleeper class, and better value for money, but, although you do get plenty of people coming through and selling things, it doesn't have the slightly crazy (in a good way) feel of sleeper class, and I missed that.
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Wow, pretty wide seats/berths and seem pretty clean and tidy and much like the AC class on IR.

Seems good value for the money too. Thanks for posting.
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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post No, I was sort of there for work, and didn't take a camera or phone.

There should be plenty of photos on the net, but if I remember right (from 12 years ago) there's 2 different kinds of non ac 2nd class sleeper, one lot of carriages come from Japan, the other lot from somewhere else (maybe home built).

This photo perhaps best shows the class (it's identical across the carriage, like 2 rows of side berths, the track is metre gauge so trains are narrow).

The whole of the backrests come down to create the mattress (no hard centre bits like 2A or 3A side berths), and a section comes down from the ceiling for the narrower (and cheaper) upper berth, I'm 5' 11 tall and fitted nicely into the berth, and the berth is REALLY wide, all berths have full curtains, the train staff come and make-up everyone's beds, pillows, sheets and blanket supplied free, a real cosy way to travel.

Bangkok-Chiang Mai is a 15 hour journey and cost about Rs750. and I feel the cost of living is maybe 20-30% higher in Thailand, so putting this class only slightly more expensive than sleeper class, and better value for money, but, although you do get plenty of people coming through and selling things, it doesn't have the slightly crazy (in a good way) feel of sleeper class, and I missed that.
I have travelled by III class, wooden seats,2nd class sleeper with fan, as well as 1st class sleeper with A/C in Thailand. Since I almost never booked in advance for , I often could not get the lower berth. I went up to Chiang Mai in III class, wooden seats and returned in A/C sleeper. The coach with seats was very crowded, not as crowded as the general unreserved coach in India. Fortunately, I had the booking clerk print my seat number. I had a seat, but had to travel shoulder to shoulder with the locals. I was warned by the locals that Chiang Mai would be cold, and that I should have brought warm clothes.

A tip for those who want to to travel from Bangkok to Northern Thailand by train, without taking a trip to Hua Lamphong Station from the airport is to take a bus from Suvarnaphum airport transportation centre to Dom Muang (The old Airport, right across) from the train Dom Muang station) and catch a train from there. There is also a booking station there.

The worst was the III class local the train with wooden seats to Aranya Prathet. I travelled with goats, chickens, and produce. The loco broke down in midday sun causing more than three hour hour delay. I barely made it to the border crossing before it closed for the day. Broken down loco meant, no fans either.

I came here looking for more recent pictures of sleeper class in India. The sleeper coach showed in the picture posted upthread was cleaner and less crowded than my experience on my last The last trip I took in over New Years eve between Delhi and Poona on Goa express. There were twice as many people in the coach than the official number of 72. I woke up because when I tried to stretch, my big toe met another guys ribs. The usual refrain is, "we will adjust", with the head nod. which, in India, means "I will take over as much as your seat as you will allow, and YOU adjust accordingly". Ever square inch of space on the floor was occupied with people sleeping on the floor. and children have also travelled by sleeper class with me, although my family living in India have not travelled by sleeper class in nearly two decades.

My wife

I hope sleeper coaches are not always that crowded.

I would appreciate it very much if some would post more recent pictures of sleeper coach.
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Originally Posted by Yaatri View Post I have travelled by III class, wooden seats,2nd class sleeper with fan, as well as 1st class sleeper with A/C in Thailand. Since I almost never booked in advance for , I often could not get the lower berth. I went up to Chiang Mai in III class, wooden seats and returned in A/C sleeper. The coach with seats was very crowded, not as crowded as the general unreserved coach in India. Fortunately, I had the booking clerk print my seat number. I had a seat, but had to travel shoulder to shoulder with the locals. I was warned by the locals that Chiang Mai would be cold, and that I should have brought warm clothes.

A tip for those who want to to travel from Bangkok to Northern Thailand by train, without taking a trip to Hua Lamphong Station from the airport is to take a bus from Suvarnaphum airport transportation centre to Dom Muang (The old Airport, right across) from the train Dom Muang station) and catch a train from there. There is also a booking station there.

The worst was the III class local the train with wooden seats to Aranya Prathet. I travelled with goats, chickens, and produce. The loco broke down in midday sun causing more than three hour hour delay. I barely made it to the border crossing before it closed for the day. Broken down loco meant, no fans either.

I came here looking for more recent pictures of sleeper class in India. The sleeper coach showed in the picture posted upthread was cleaner and less crowded than my experience on my last The last trip I took in over New Years eve between Delhi and Poona on Goa express. There were twice as many people in the coach than the official number of 72. I woke up because when I tried to stretch, my big toe met another guys ribs. The usual refrain is, "we will adjust", with the head nod. which, in India, means "I will take over as much as your seat as you will allow, and YOU adjust accordingly". Ever square inch of space on the floor was occupied with people sleeping on the floor. and children have also travelled by sleeper class with me, although my family living in India have not travelled by sleeper class in nearly two decades.

My wife

I hope sleeper coaches are not always that crowded.

I would appreciate it very much if some would post more recent pictures of sleeper coach.
I can't post pictures but I took the sleeper class in May while travelling from Howrah to Haldwani. Absolutely nothing has changed, infact things have become worse in the last few years if you ask me. They have practically converted the sleeper class to unreserved second class for all essence and purposes during the day.

There was not only people sleeping on the floor during the night but as many as 6 persons were sharing the lower berth on either side, for a total of 12 persons, during the day. Similar story for side lower berth. A few others created makeshift seats using bags and what not on the sideways. I was tired of the congestion and sat on the upper berth most of the time and even there I had to share my seat with 2 persons. At times there was no passage way to even reach the toilets as people were jamming the entrances on both sides. Add to this the extreme heat of May/June which turns a sleeper compartment into a broiler, made my life miserable.

I usually travel by sleeper class because I have high tolerance and love to see the scenery outside while travelling but everything has its limits and I for one would not be travelling in sleeper class anymore unless I know its off season for a route.
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One journey I was lounging on the top bunk, and saw a small hand come from under the seat below me and wriggled its way into some ones back pack and the made off with a sandwich ......then about 10 mins later it appeared again and got slapped ha ha .
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Sleeper Class is easily the best 'value for money' class on Indian Railways and maybe 80% of carriages on medium and long distance trains are Sleeper Class carriages, Sleeper Class is basic and has no air conditioning, it is the choice of most budget backpackers.

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Now a days when you reserve your berth there is link you click on it & you can book a e bed roll with your sleeper berth ticket booking.2) buy a english newspaper( They have many pages & a supplement with glossy paper) Newspaper is useful for seating on floor glossy paper useful for packing wet things( leftover samosa omelette for eating after some time
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Am returning to India in a few weeks, for the first time in over twenty five years ...

Casually booked short daytime sleeper class (Mumbai to Pune) - saying to myself 'I can handle that' ... then started feeling irrational anxiety , even though I have done loads of long sleeper class journeys in India (a long time ago).

This thread is full of super-useful info - still relevant imho - and reading it has reminded me a lot about why I used to enjoy such trips.

@Steven esp : (& many other contributors) ... Thank you !!


(Couldn't get a 'confirmed' 3ac for the return leg, so instead will try 2ac for the first time, tinted windows and all)
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