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PNR # 432-9793116. I purchased eticket for Mysore express departing from Tanjore to Mysore on 8th June. Now the chart has been prepared, and my tickets were not confirmed and still shows as WL3 & WL4.

Can I get any refund for this. How should I do the cancellation? Should I apply online for cancellation or will this be done automatically.

This is the first time I'm doing online booking with Indian railways. Kindly help.
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Originally Posted by jseam View Post PNR # 432-9793116. I purchased eticket for Mysore express departing from Tanjore to Mysore on 8th June. Now the chart has been prepared, and my tickets were not confirmed and still shows as WL3 & WL4.

Can I get any refund for this. How should I do the cancellation? Should I apply online for cancellation or will this be done automatically.

This is the first time I'm doing online booking with Indian railways. Kindly help.
E-tickets (Reservations) can be cancelled only through Internet till Chart preparation of the train and cancellation is not allowed at the Railway Counters. If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station. (For trains starting up to 12 noon the chart preparation is usually done on the previous night). You can log on to www.irctc.co.in and go to Booked Tickets link and select the ticket to be fully or partly cancelled and can initiate the cancellation by selecting the passengers to be cancelled. However if the Identity Card holder in the original ticket is selected for cancellation, all the passengers in the ticket would be cancelled and a fresh reservation will have to be made, duly including the ID particulars of another passenger. Cancellation would be confirmed online and the refund would be credited back to the account used for booking as for normal Internet tickets. If there is any partial cancellation of ticket please ensure that the modified ticket (Electronic Reservation Slip) is printed separately. Modification on e-Tickets such as change of boarding point, change of Name is not permitted.


for cancellation after chart preparation p.s.que no.5 in the weblink http://erail.in/Rail/FAQ/E-ticket.html
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Originally Posted by Fundoo View Post since the chart is prepared i would suggest you to cancel the ticket. the cancellation isn't an automatic process.

Since this is purchased in Tatkal, if I cancel will I get refund?
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Originally Posted by jseam View Post Since this is purchased in Tatkal, if I cancel will I get refund?
i have edited my post.
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Originally Posted by Fundoo View Post E-tickets (Reservations) can be cancelled only through Internet till Chart preparation of the train and cancellation is not allowed at the Railway Counters. If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station. (For trains starting up to 12 noon the chart preparation is usually done on the previous night). You can log on to www.irctc.co.in and go to Booked Tickets link and select the ticket to be fully or partly cancelled and can initiate the cancellation by selecting the passengers to be cancelled. However if the Identity Card holder in the original ticket is selected for cancellation, all the passengers in the ticket would be cancelled and a fresh reservation will have to be made, duly including the ID particulars of another passenger. Cancellation would be confirmed online and the refund would be credited back to the account used for booking as for normal Internet tickets. If there is any partial cancellation of ticket please ensure that the modified ticket (Electronic Reservation Slip) is printed separately. Modification on e-Tickets such as change of boarding point, change of Name is not permitted.


for cancellation after chart preparation p.s.que no.5 in the weblink http://erail.in/Rail/FAQ/E-ticket.html
1. " If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station."
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Incorrect. A new rule has come into effect where cancellations would not be possible for PNR's getting confirmed through charting at remote stations or originating station.

2. "However if the Identity Card holder in the original ticket is selected for cancellation, all the passengers in the ticket would be cancelled and a fresh reservation will have to be made, duly including the ID particulars of another passenger. "

Applies for Counter Tatkal Ticket and not E-Tatkal.

3. "Modification on e-Tickets such as change of boarding point, change of Name is not permitted."

Very much permissible. However the latter depends on the discretion of the Reservation Officer in the PRS Counter.
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post 1. " If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station."
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Incorrect. A new rule has come into effect where cancellations would not be possible for PNR's getting confirmed through charting at remote stations or originating station.
the details i have shared were for wait listed tickets i believe.
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Originally Posted by Fundoo View Post the details i have shared were for wait listed tickets i believe.
None of the details apply for WL'ed tickets.
Only for complete WL'ed tickets, the following applies:

"If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station. (For trains starting up to 12 noon the chart preparation is usually done on the previous night)."

The rest applies as per the clarification given by me above.
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post None of the details apply for WL'ed tickets.
Only for complete WL'ed tickets, the following applies:

"If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station. (For trains starting up to 12 noon the chart preparation is usually done on the previous night)."

The rest applies as per the clarification given by me above.
the initial query was for a WL ticket hence i replied with the quoted transcript. i guess i correctly answered the original query.
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Originally Posted by Fundoo View Post the initial query was for a WL ticket hence i replied with the quoted transcript. i guess i correctly answered the original query.
1. You did, but you had missed out some technical terms, without which the reply provided by you sounds dubious.

2. The rule about the ID Card stuff applies for Counter Tickets. It has nothing to do with E-Tickets. (Since you were trying to respond to the initial query)

3. Modification of boarding points and change of names is very much permissible both in case of E-tickets and Counter Tickets (Subject to some conditions)
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To add, the initial query was based on a fully wl'ed tatkal e-ticket.
Whereas the transcript pasted by you was aimed at a general wl'ed ticket.
(Cant figure out whether it applies to e-ticket or counter ticket; as it seems to be a mixture of both)
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post To add, the initial query was based on a fully wl'ed tatkal e-ticket.
Whereas the transcript pasted by you was aimed at a general wl'ed ticket.
(Cant figure out whether it applies to e-ticket or counter ticket; as it seems to be a mixture of both)
it should be the same as Tatkal
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Originally Posted by Fundoo View Post it should be the same as Tatkal
Yes Sir. Correct you are in saying that the rules should be same for tatkal, but in this case very few of the rules are valid.

1. " If you wish to cancel your E-ticket, you can do so till the time of chart preparation for the train (which is normally 4 to 6 hours before the scheduled departure of the train from the train originating station."
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A new rule has come into effect where cancellations would not be possible for PNR's getting confirmed through charting at remote stations or originating station.

In Tatkal, however it is difficult to find out whether the ticket has been confirmed through the originating stations or due to cancellations at intermediate stations.
Such situations are complex and difficult to figure out, hence I am not going into this.

2. "However if the Identity Card holder in the original ticket is selected for cancellation, all the passengers in the ticket would be cancelled and a fresh reservation will have to be made, duly including the ID particulars of another passenger. "

Applies for Counter Tatkal Ticket and not E-Tatkal.

3. "Modification on e-Tickets such as change of boarding point, change of Name is not permitted."

Very much permissible. However the latter depends on the discretion of the Reservation Officer in the PRS Counter.


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With no hard feelings, I would like you to take a look at the official website where such rules and regulations are stated in detail.

http://www.claims.indianrail.gov.in/...FUND_RULES.htm
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post
With no hard feelings, I would like you to take a look at the official website where such rules and regulations are stated in detail.

http://www.claims.indianrail.gov.in/...FUND_RULES.htm
thanks for the info will re-check on it.
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More on this:
http://www.indianrail.gov.in/refund_Rules.html

However, it is debatable whether the rules written under "REFUND OF COMBINED TICKETS" mentioned in the 1st link would apply for Tatkal or not.
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post More on this:
http://www.indianrail.gov.in/refund_Rules.html

However, it is debatable whether the rules written under "REFUND OF COMBINED TICKETS" mentioned in the 1st link would apply for Tatkal or not.
i read this one hence got confused.

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