Senior Citizen discount on trains.

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I wasn't making any allegation. I was just trying to clarify -- as Shimla pointed out. and then based on Shimla's comment:

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No proof of age is asked for at the time of booking. Normally, the TTE on the train also does not ask for proof.
I was surprised that the railways were expecting the "honor system" to work in India.

Personally, I think foreign tourists should avail every possible discount they can India -- given that they are charged higher "foreigner" rates in many places.
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I was never asked for proof of age on the train, but buying tickets for foreigners' quota meant I had to show my passport every time -- and that confirms my age.

The senior discount was a nice little gift from Mom India to me!
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Agree with Wonderwoman, first time in India in 2002 we were booking tickets and the clerk checking the passports said 'over 60?', I said yes and he carried on typing away and then said sign here, and that was it, OAP discount without asking. Obviously he saw age from passport and he also made a remark about Father and Son? Good Boy' I think he said!!!!!!
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Change in senior citizen rules on trains

I don't know if this has been covered elsewhere, but this from the indian railway site ('Alerts and Updates' scrolling on www.irctc.co.in)


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Change in the element of concession and Age limit of senior citizens

1. The minimum age for availing concession from 60 years has been reduced to 58 years in case of Women senior citizens. However, the element of Concession will continue to remain at 50%.

2. There is increase in the element of concession in case of men senior Citizens from 30% to 40%.The minimum age will, however, continue to be 60 Years in case of men.

The above concession will be admissible on tickets purchased on and after 01.06.2011. In case of ticket already issued for travels on & after 01.06.2011, refund of difference of fares will not be admissible.
https://www.irctc.co.in/seniorstznconn.htm
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Thanks for this new info.

And might add that I have been asked for proof of age by the conductor when traveling on the senior fares. So if you do not quite qualify, it is not a good ideal to purchase these.
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Originally Posted by Lady Traveler View Post Thanks for this new info.

And might add that I have been asked for proof of age by the conductor when traveling on the senior fares. So if you do not quite qualify, it is not a good ideal to purchase these.
Isnt that obvious that the Railways would verify whether the traveller obtaining such concessions is actually eligible or not?
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http://bit.ly/mLSoV5


1. Concession facility to family of Accredited Press Correspondents
As per existing rules, 50% concession is admissible in all classes in basic fares of Mail /Express Trains and in fares of Rajdhani/Shatabdi/Jan Shatabdi Trains to accredited press correspondents for unlimited travel on bonafide press work.The same concession is also admissible to spouse/companion and dependent children of the correspondent upto 18 years while travelling with him/her once in a financial year.
This Concession facility for Rail Travel to family (spouse/companion and dependent children upto 18 years) of the accredited press correspondents is extended and they are entitled to travel twice during a financial year.

2. Concession facility to Senior Citizens
As per existing rules, Senior Citizens aged above 60 years are eligible for concession in the basic fares of mail /express trains and all inclusive fares of Rajdhani/Shatabdi/Jan Shatabdi Trains.The element of concession is 30% for men and 50% for women Senior Citizens.
This concession facility is revised and the minimum age for availing Senior Citizen concession in case of women Senior Citizens is reduced to 58 years from 60 years earlier.The element of concession will remain the same at 50%.
In case of men Senior Citizens, the element of concession has beenincreased to 40% from 30% earlier.The minimum age will continue to be 60 years.
This concession will be admissible on tickets purchased on and after 1st June, 2011.In case of tickets already issued for travel on and after 1st June, 2011, no refund of difference of fare will be given.

3. Concession facility to Orthopaedically handicapped/Paraplegic Persons
As per existing rules, Orthopaedically handicapped/Paraplegic Persons are entitled for concession in Rail Travel by various classes of Mail/Express Trains.
The concession facility is extended to Rajdhani/Shatabdi Express Trains also.Accordingly, Orthopaedically handicapped/Paraplegic Persons who cannot travel without the assistants of escort are eligible for 25% concession on all inclusive fares in AC 3 Tier and AC Chair Car. This same concession will also admissible to one escort accompanying the handicapped person.
This concession will be admissible on tickets purchased on and after 1st June, 2011.In case of tickets already issued for travel on and after 1st June, 2011, no refund of difference of fare will be given.
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http://bit.ly/kQgbkg

SENIOR CITIZEN CONCESSION * RAIL FARE CONCESSION TO FAMILY OF ACCREDITED PRESS CORRESPONDENTS INCREASED TO TWICE IN A FINANCIAL YEAR


As per existing provisions, senior citizens of minimum 60 years are eligible for concession in the basic fares of Mail/Express trains and all inclusive fares of Rajdhani/Shatabdi/Jan Shatabdi trains. The element of concession is 30 per cent for men senior citizens and 50 per cent for women senior citizens.

As announced by Minister of Railways in Budget speech for 2011-12 on 25th February, 2011, it has been decided to reduce the minimum age for availing concession from 60 years to 58 years in case for women senior citizens. However, the element of concession will continue to remain at 50 per cent.

It has also been decided to increase the element of concession in case of men senior citizens from 30 per cent to 40 per cent. The minimum age will, however, continue to be 60 years in case of men.

There will be no change in other terms and conditions.

The concession will be admissible on tickets purchased on and after 01.06.2011. In case of tickets already issued for travel on & after 01.06.2011, refund of difference of fares will not be admissible.

RAIL FARE CONCESSION TO FAMILY OF ACCREDITED PRESS CORRESPONDENTS INCREASED TO TWICE IN A FINANCIAL YEAR

As per existing rules, 50 per cent concession is admissible in all classes in basic fares of Mail/Express trains and in fares of Rajdhani/Shatabdi/Jan Shatabdi trains to accredited Press Correspondents for unlimited travel on bonafide press work. The same concession is also admissible to spouse/companion and dependent children up to 18 years of the correspondent while travelling with him/her once in a financial year.

As announced in Railway Minister’s Budget speech for 2011-12 on 25th February, 2011, Ministry of Railways have decided to extend the concession to family (Spouse/.companion and dependent children up to 18 years) twice during the financial year.

The facility will be effective from 01.06.2011.

There is no change in other terms and conditions.
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Originally Posted by Lady Traveler View Post might add that I have been asked for proof of age by the conductor when traveling on the senior fares. So if you do not quite qualify, it is not a good ideal to purchase these.
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post Isnt that obvious that the Railways would verify whether the traveller obtaining such concessions is actually eligible or not?
You can be asked for an ID anyway. Which is why it's a good idea to not travel around on dodgy tickets, period (As a local, see what you do. But as a foreign traveler, I wouldn't advise it. Would rarely be an issue btw if you don't do it on purpose, but if nothing's available and then some dodgy agent magically conjures up a ticket for you for a handsome sum, you might want to consider if that ticket is actually in your name and confirmed and so on.

To purposely try and use a quota you're not eligible for however, no, not a good idea. You may very well be asked about it just when buying the ticket, btw.)
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Originally Posted by machadinha View Post To purposely try and use a quota you're not eligible for however, no, not a good idea. You may very well be asked about it just when buying the ticket, btw.)
For certain quotas existing in IR, they are bound to be given to people who are eligible for it.
For example:
DF (Defence), DP (Duty Pass => For Members of Parliament and other bureaucrats), HO (Higher Official), SS (Senior Citizen), LD (Ladies).

There also exists other quotas like OS and so on.
For complete list, check here.
http://indiavoice.info/20090304558/i...-railways.html

All of the above quotas are not to be mixed with one another and each of them has its own priority.
For example, one would surely verify if I am a defence personnel or not if I have availed the ticket in DF.

If I am a railway employee and have got myself a 'Zero' Fare ticket, the ticket would indicate the same along with my pass identification no. However the TTe, on board would still verify the fact that I am actually a railway employee.

If a lady has got herself a LB under LD Quota, the TTE would again verify the fact that she is 45+.

And this way, it goes on and on.


However, the TTE wouldnt verify, if the original ticket is purchased in the ordinary quotas like GNWL, RSWL, RLWL, PQWL, RLGN and is latter put under the above mentioned quotas while charting. (Utilisation of unused quotas)
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http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MP-...t-2165140.html

Travelling by a train and unhappy with the facilities offered onboard? Here’s your ticket to a smoother ride - passengers travelling via any train of the West Central Railway can now get their complaints registered through a simple SMS.

West Central Railway Jabalpur Zone has issued SMS number for all three divisions including the headquarters.

A special complaint and grievance redressal cell has also been instituted at Jabalpur.

The resolution of complaints will be the responsibility of the office of the DGM (general).

However, complaints related to the commercial deportment will fall under the jurisdiction of the CCM Office.

Currently, any grievant train traveller can ask the TTE or train guard for the complaint book.

However, the new SMS system will enable travellers to register their complaint quickly and find out what the railways has done to resolve the same.
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I am actually 73. I posted that warning about not being quite the right age as it might be tempting, for someone that was almost 60 to book a senior fare.
I am sure that I look 70, but I was still asked for my passport to have my age checked.
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Are foreigners aged 60 & above entitled to senior concession rates for Indian trains?

Are foreigners aged 60 & above entitled to senior concession rates for Indian trains?
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The concession is called " Senior Citizen", so would mean only Indian Citizens are eligible, but have heard that it is allowed to all irrespective of citizenship.

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