Rail Gurus HELP - RAC 18, 19 - H NIZAMUDDIN to TRIVANDRUM CNTL

minkatheb · Jul 9th, 2008, 13:19

I just booked my tickets and checked the PNR status of the first train (VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS GETS CONFIRMED!!) and it appears to be the following:

Train # 2432 (TRIVNDRM RJDHNI).
Date - July 20, Sunday
Class - 2A
Passenger 1 - RAC 18
Passenger 2 - RAC 19

At the time of booking, we were wait listed at 1 and 2 position...

Just for quirks, I looked at the availability charts for a few of the older dates...
1 6- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0026 AVAILABLE- 0026
2 8- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0044 AVAILABLE- 0074
3 13- 7-2008 WL 32/WL 6 WL 83/WL 20
4 15- 7-2008 WL 24/WL 12 WL 44/WL 18
5 20- 7-2008 WL 17/RAC 20 WL 35/WL 9

and looks like the train had berths available when it departed on those dates? (of course, I could be completely wrong on this estimate!)

What are the chances of this getting confirmed?? Train # 2432 (TRIVNDRM RJDHNI).

steven_ber · Jul 10th, 2008, 00:36

Indian Railways never fails to surprise me, I thought there was no RAC in Rajdhanis, never mind.

I'd say your chances are reasonable, or even good, you've already moved a step closer, as RAC19 is now available to anyone buying a ticket today, so you must have moved a bit.

Do you understand RAC? (it means you're on the train, but with only a seat, not a berth, but any last minute cancellations or unused quotas will ease the length of the RAC list (then waitlist))

Half-God · Jul 10th, 2008, 01:30

As for now. The railway wants to earn more money. So they keep a lot of seats/berths for booking Tatkal quota (Stat Booking paying Rs. 300 extra/ berth within 5days form the date of dep of the train). I think if you check the avaialbility at Tatkal quota; you will find that a lot of free berths are available. as this is the lean season for travelling so there is a fair chance of your berth (RAC = Reservation Against Cancellation) geting confirmed. And they would be shown confirmed only the day Yo are going to depart.
If you need to get it really confirmed. then by the ticket in Tatkal Quota paying that extra amount.

Hymz · Jul 10th, 2008, 02:37

Hi,

RAC means that you will be alloted a seat to sit but not yet a berth to sleep. For starters, you will be able to board the train and will not be turned away. The chances that your ticket will get confirmed is in the high 90 percentiles. Primiarliy for five reasons.

1) You stil have a 10 days to travel. Cancellations will definitely happen
2) Rajdhani has more 2 Tier AC composition than any other train (3-4 coaches)
3) Railways generally clear the RAC / WL of long distance travellers as compared to short distance travellers.
4) From a personal travelling expereince, I have seen mostly 2 A tickets getting cleared as compared to 3 Tier or sleeper.
5) You need only 9 cancellations in 2A for your tickets to get confirmed, which is very possible. Ok, even if you dont get those 9 cancellations, then you still will be allocated a seat and then you will require 1-2 cancellation in your coach to get you a berth. This is not difficult at all. Dont ask me how, but trust me.

Think you shud not bother and be alright.

Cheers
Hymz

minkatheb · Jul 10th, 2008, 15:08

Thank you all for the replies. The status has moved to RAC 17, 18 now (1 cancellation?).

Steven_ber, Half-God, Hymz, I will keep the status on check, and what is the latest I can buy the tatkal ticket? I think the reservation officer said 5 days before the journey...is that true?

Baba · Jul 10th, 2008, 20:53

Tatkal sales start 5 days before travel and of course you can then buy them until they are sold out. Right now 2432 shows 20 tatkal tickets for sale for July 20 in 2A but they are not on sale yet.

vsp27759 · Jul 10th, 2008, 21:36

Dear minkatheb,

Please look at this:
---
You Queried For
Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
2432 TRIVNDRM RJDHNI 20-07-2008 H NIZAMUDDIN TRIVANDRUM CNTL TATKAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 2A Class -3A
1 20- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
2 22- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
3 27- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
4 29- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
5 3- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
6 5- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
============
##Please note only 20 Berths in 2A have been earmarked for tatkal quota.

##Your status might get moved to Confirmed Status before you get into the train. Just keep checking your Status.

minkatheb · Jul 13th, 2008, 10:48

Getting a little worried here...
S. No.
Booking Status Current Status
(Coach No , Berth No., Quota) (Coach No , Berth No.)
Passenger 1 W/L 15 ,GNWL RAC 15
Passenger 2 W/L 16 ,GNWL RAC 16

Still at RAC 15....and 16...really HOPING for some CANCELLATIONS soon!! Interesting waitinglist changes:

1 13- 7-2008 NOT AVAILABLE NOT AVAILABLE
2 15- 7-2008 WL 30/WL 10 WL 52/WL 11
3 20- 7-2008 WL 30/WL 10 WL 47/WL 18
4 22- 7-2008 WL/AVAILABLE WL 11/WL 1
5 27- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0002 RAC 19/RAC 13

steven_ber · Jul 13th, 2008, 17:27

Where are you traveling from and to? (it makes a big difference)

I assumed you were traveling from Delhi to Trivandrum, and if this is the case, you really should have little to worry about, when the chart is prepared all berths from unused quotas (too many to mention) will be used to reduce the RAC and waitlist, and it's very likely your RAC will become confirmed.

Go to check out the availability again, then look at all the other quotas, Foreign tourist, defence, Lower berth, Tatkal (too early), then there's many other unlisted quotas, all unused quotas will go to bringing down the RAC/Waitlist when the chart is prepared.

minkatheb · Jul 13th, 2008, 22:35

I am travelling on the 20th.

I just checked out the other quotas, they add up to about 30 seats including the tatkal quota.

Now, it's RAC 14,15...

steven_ber · Jul 13th, 2008, 23:27

Then there's the other quotas that we can't view, then other cancellations.

But if you're worried, book Tatkal tickets on Tuesday (after 08:00 IST.)

minkatheb · Jul 15th, 2008, 17:46

So, I decided to wait the first day of Tatkal bookings and looks like there is only 3 Tatkal tickets left...

I am currently at RAC 7 and 8, and the trip is on July 20th (Train #2432, Class: 2AC) . What are my chances? I just pulled up the general quota and it looks like this:

1 15- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0033 AVAILABLE- 0073
2 20- 7-2008 WL 31/RAC 20 WL 55/WL 16
3 22- 7-2008 WL/AVAILABLE WL 16/WL 4
4 27- 7-2008 RAC 6/RAC 6 WL 3/RAC 13
5 29- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0025 WL 13/WL 5
6 3- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0035 WL 23/WL 15

Also, it says 33 berths available in Tuesday, 15th (today), does that mean there were actually empty seats in the train??

Baba · Jul 15th, 2008, 19:05

As you seem to go for the whole length of the train's journey anyway, why on earth don't you book Tatkal? Delhi to Trivandrum means a very long trip and Tatkal would guarantee both of you a berth for a comparatively small surcharge....

vsp27759 · Jul 15th, 2008, 21:23

Dear Minkatheb,

Now that you are at RAC.7 & 8, please be rest assured, you will get confirmed.
---------
##At the time of posting this message, the following is the status in Tatkal Quota:
......
You Queried For
Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
2432 TRIVNDRM RJDHNI 20-07-2008 H NIZAMUDDIN TRIVANDRUM CNTL TATKAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 2A Class -3A
1 20- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0003 AVAILABLE- 0085
2 22- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
3 27- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
4 29- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
5 3- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
6 5- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128
------------
##The Tatkal Booking has opened today morning at 8.00 AM. Please note how the 2AC Berths have gone, but not those in 3AC.:-)

minkatheb · Jul 16th, 2008, 19:57

this suspense is nail-biting...now there is a waiting list for the Tatkal as well, and I am still at RAC 7 and 8. Someone, please cancel your trip!

Question: Would we still get a seat together or chances are low that we get a seat together because we are RAC?

Jul 9th, 2008, 13:19	#1
minkatheb Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33	Rail Gurus HELP - RAC 18, 19 - H NIZAMUDDIN to TRIVANDRUM CNTL I just booked my tickets and checked the PNR status of the first train (VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS GETS CONFIRMED!!) and it appears to be the following: Train # 2432 (TRIVNDRM RJDHNI). Date - July 20, Sunday Class - 2A Passenger 1 - RAC 18 Passenger 2 - RAC 19 At the time of booking, we were wait listed at 1 and 2 position... Just for quirks, I looked at the availability charts for a few of the older dates... 1 6- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0026 AVAILABLE- 0026 2 8- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0044 AVAILABLE- 0074 3 13- 7-2008 WL 32/WL 6 WL 83/WL 20 4 15- 7-2008 WL 24/WL 12 WL 44/WL 18 5 20- 7-2008 WL 17/RAC 20 WL 35/WL 9 and looks like the train had berths available when it departed on those dates? (of course, I could be completely wrong on this estimate!) What are the chances of this getting confirmed?? Train # 2432 (TRIVNDRM RJDHNI).

Jul 10th, 2008, 01:30	#3
Half-God Account Closed Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calcutta-Kolkata Posts: 1	It's posible that the seats were vacant. As for now. The railway wants to earn more money. So they keep a lot of seats/berths for booking Tatkal quota (Stat Booking paying Rs. 300 extra/ berth within 5days form the date of dep of the train). I think if you check the avaialbility at Tatkal quota; you will find that a lot of free berths are available. as this is the lean season for travelling so there is a fair chance of your berth (RAC = Reservation Against Cancellation) geting confirmed. And they would be shown confirmed only the day Yo are going to depart. If you need to get it really confirmed. then by the ticket in Tatkal Quota paying that extra amount.

Jul 10th, 2008, 02:37	#4
Hymz himans(@)gmail(.)com Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 52	Train ticket confirmation Hi, RAC means that you will be alloted a seat to sit but not yet a berth to sleep. For starters, you will be able to board the train and will not be turned away. The chances that your ticket will get confirmed is in the high 90 percentiles. Primiarliy for five reasons. 1) You stil have a 10 days to travel. Cancellations will definitely happen 2) Rajdhani has more 2 Tier AC composition than any other train (3-4 coaches) 3) Railways generally clear the RAC / WL of long distance travellers as compared to short distance travellers. 4) From a personal travelling expereince, I have seen mostly 2 A tickets getting cleared as compared to 3 Tier or sleeper. 5) You need only 9 cancellations in 2A for your tickets to get confirmed, which is very possible. Ok, even if you dont get those 9 cancellations, then you still will be allocated a seat and then you will require 1-2 cancellation in your coach to get you a berth. This is not difficult at all. Dont ask me how, but trust me. Think you shud not bother and be alright. Cheers Hymz __________________ A journey is transportation of the mind ---> If you can transport your mind ---> the location does not matter !! Last edited by Hymz : Jul 10th, 2008 at 22:10. Reason: Typo errors and adding a point.

Jul 10th, 2008, 20:53	#6
Baba Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 278	Tatkal sales start 5 days before travel and of course you can then buy them until they are sold out. Right now 2432 shows 20 tatkal tickets for sale for July 20 in 2A but they are not on sale yet. __________________ Baba

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Jul 10th, 2008, 00:36	#2
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,243	Indian Railways never fails to surprise me, I thought there was no RAC in Rajdhanis, never mind. I'd say your chances are reasonable, or even good, you've already moved a step closer, as RAC19 is now available to anyone buying a ticket today, so you must have moved a bit. Do you understand RAC? (it means you're on the train, but with only a seat, not a berth, but any last minute cancellations or unused quotas will ease the length of the RAC list (then waitlist)) __________________ . How to get helpful replies to your transport/Itinerary questions. Train information.

Jul 10th, 2008, 15:08	#5
minkatheb Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33	Thank you all for the replies. The status has moved to RAC 17, 18 now (1 cancellation?). Steven_ber, Half-God, Hymz, I will keep the status on check, and what is the latest I can buy the tatkal ticket? I think the reservation officer said 5 days before the journey...is that true?

Jul 10th, 2008, 21:36	#7
vsp27759 V.SRINIVASA PRASAD Join Date: May 2005 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 1,465	Dear minkatheb, Please look at this: --- You Queried For Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code 2432 TRIVNDRM RJDHNI 20-07-2008 H NIZAMUDDIN TRIVANDRUM CNTL TATKAL S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 2A Class -3A 1 20- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 2 22- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 3 27- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 4 29- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 5 3- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 6 5- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 ============ ##Please note only 20 Berths in 2A have been earmarked for tatkal quota. ##Your status might get moved to Confirmed Status before you get into the train. Just keep checking your Status.

Jul 13th, 2008, 10:48	#8
minkatheb Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33	Getting a little worried here... S. No. Booking Status Current Status (Coach No , Berth No., Quota) (Coach No , Berth No.) Passenger 1 W/L 15 ,GNWL RAC 15 Passenger 2 W/L 16 ,GNWL RAC 16 Still at RAC 15....and 16...really HOPING for some CANCELLATIONS soon!! Interesting waitinglist changes: 1 13- 7-2008 NOT AVAILABLE NOT AVAILABLE 2 15- 7-2008 WL 30/WL 10 WL 52/WL 11 3 20- 7-2008 WL 30/WL 10 WL 47/WL 18 4 22- 7-2008 WL/AVAILABLE WL 11/WL 1 5 27- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0002 RAC 19/RAC 13

Jul 13th, 2008, 17:27	#9
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,243	Where are you traveling from and to? (it makes a big difference) I assumed you were traveling from Delhi to Trivandrum, and if this is the case, you really should have little to worry about, when the chart is prepared all berths from unused quotas (too many to mention) will be used to reduce the RAC and waitlist, and it's very likely your RAC will become confirmed. Go to check out the availability again, then look at all the other quotas, Foreign tourist, defence, Lower berth, Tatkal (too early), then there's many other unlisted quotas, all unused quotas will go to bringing down the RAC/Waitlist when the chart is prepared.

Jul 13th, 2008, 22:35	#10
minkatheb Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33	I am travelling on the 20th. I just checked out the other quotas, they add up to about 30 seats including the tatkal quota. Now, it's RAC 14,15...

Jul 13th, 2008, 23:27	#11
steven_ber Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, England. Posts: 9,243	Then there's the other quotas that we can't view, then other cancellations. But if you're worried, book Tatkal tickets on Tuesday (after 08:00 IST.)

Jul 15th, 2008, 17:46	#12
minkatheb Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33	So, I decided to wait the first day of Tatkal bookings and looks like there is only 3 Tatkal tickets left... I am currently at RAC 7 and 8, and the trip is on July 20th (Train #2432, Class: 2AC) . What are my chances? I just pulled up the general quota and it looks like this: 1 15- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0033 AVAILABLE- 0073 2 20- 7-2008 WL 31/RAC 20 WL 55/WL 16 3 22- 7-2008 WL/AVAILABLE WL 16/WL 4 4 27- 7-2008 RAC 6/RAC 6 WL 3/RAC 13 5 29- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0025 WL 13/WL 5 6 3- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0035 WL 23/WL 15 Also, it says 33 berths available in Tuesday, 15th (today), does that mean there were actually empty seats in the train??

Jul 15th, 2008, 19:05	#13
Baba Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 278	As you seem to go for the whole length of the train's journey anyway, why on earth don't you book Tatkal? Delhi to Trivandrum means a very long trip and Tatkal would guarantee both of you a berth for a comparatively small surcharge....

Jul 15th, 2008, 21:23	#14
vsp27759 V.SRINIVASA PRASAD Join Date: May 2005 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 1,465	Dear Minkatheb, Now that you are at RAC.7 & 8, please be rest assured, you will get confirmed. --------- ##At the time of posting this message, the following is the status in Tatkal Quota: ...... You Queried For Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code 2432 TRIVNDRM RJDHNI 20-07-2008 H NIZAMUDDIN TRIVANDRUM CNTL TATKAL S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 2A Class -3A 1 20- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0003 AVAILABLE- 0085 2 22- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 3 27- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 4 29- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 5 3- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 6 5- 8-2008 AVAILABLE- 0020 AVAILABLE- 0128 ------------ ##The Tatkal Booking has opened today morning at 8.00 AM. Please note how the 2AC Berths have gone, but not those in 3AC.:-)

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Jul 16th, 2008, 19:57	#15
minkatheb Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33	this suspense is nail-biting...now there is a waiting list for the Tatkal as well, and I am still at RAC 7 and 8. Someone, please cancel your trip! Question: Would we still get a seat together or chances are low that we get a seat together because we are RAC?