RAC tickets - will they be confirmed and together?

#1 Dec 1st, 2007, 06:36
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I booked my first tickets online (at first attempt!) a few weeks ago. We were only able to get waitlisted, so I had to choose itickets for delivery to an Indian hotel address, rather than eitckets.

I have checked our PNR status and it is set out below. I am travelling with children.

What chance is there that we will all be confirmed and seated together?

Also, if we are confirmed, does IR send confirmed tickets to the address we provided?

Many thanks for any advice.

1 4060 JSM DLI EXPRESS 27-12-2007 JSM JU JU JSM 2A
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Booking Status Current Status
(Coach No , Berth No., Quota) (Coach No , Berth No.)
Passenger 1 W/L 16 ,GNWL Confirmed
Passenger 2 W/L 17 ,GNWL RAC 1
Passenger 3 W/L 18 ,GNWL RAC 2
Passenger 4 W/L 19 ,GNWL RAC 3
Charting Status CHART NOT PREPARED
#2 Dec 1st, 2007, 09:32
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There is a good chance that they will be confirmed.

There will not be any new ticket sent. You will use the same ticket that you have now. The ticket examiner's chart and the reservation chart (stuck outside the train carriage and on a board in the railway station) will show that your ticket is confirmed and your seat allocations. You can also find the allocated seat numbers by checking the website 2-3 hours before departure, when the reservation charts would have been prepared.

There is no guarantee that you will all be seated together, but if you aren't, you can always explain your situation to the ticket examiner and he can arrange for a seat swap with somebody else.
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RAC 1,2 & 3 will be confirmed. As manojb has explained you can request the conductor or fellow passengers to swap seats, in most cases they agree.
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Dear Troppo,

##The Journey Date is 27th December,2007!!!!

##Class: 2A

##Season of Travel: Very Peak
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##It is good that one ticket has moved from Waiting List to Confirmed and three others just to RAC!!!

##Assuming that there are no further cancellations, the other 3 tickets would remain only in RAC, which means, these 3 Passengers would be provided "sitting accomodation" - may be in the same coach in which One Berth is confirmed (OR) in another Coach, if there are Two 2AC Coaches.
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hello,

The chances are high to get the tickets confirmed. Generally, the reservation chart is prepared four hours before th departure of the train. You must reach the station before one hour. Check the reservation chart. There you will find the coach & seat number allocated to you. Just get into your seats. The TT has those reservation chart.

Generally, seats are allocated in a very good manner. I remember, when we two girls were traveling all alone for the first time to Chennai, we got a RAC ticket which later on confirmed and the best part was that we were given seats in between of a family group where three were womens & one was male. This means that the train employee allocate seats in a very safely manner considering many parameters. Still if you find seats in a different coach (which is quite a less chance in Class 2A), you can always request TT for swapping.

Have a Nice & Safe Journey!
Love traveling & Indian Food.
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Dear Ms.Ann,

I remember, when we two girls were traveling all alone for the first time to Chennai, we got a RAC ticket which later on confirmed and the best part was that we were given seats in between of a family group where three were womens & one was male.

##This has happened out of your "sheer luck", otherwise, I am aware of cases, where the passengers in the same PNR were split:-
(i) either in the same coach (or)
(ii)spread over in different coaches

but only in rare cases, they got compact allotment in the same bay (or) in adjacent bays!!!!
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 View Post Dear Ms.Ann,

I remember, when we two girls were traveling all alone for the first time to Chennai, we got a RAC ticket which later on confirmed and the best part was that we were given seats in between of a family group where three were womens & one was male.

##This has happened out of your "sheer luck", otherwise, I am aware of cases, where the passengers in the same PNR were split:-
(i) either in the same coach (or)
(ii)spread over in different coaches

but only in rare cases, they got compact allotment in the same bay (or) in adjacent bays!!!!
Sheer luck cannot happened most of the time. I have seen it in many of our relatives cases also. My parents who went to Pune in Navratri had their tickets in Waiting List, got it confirmed, that too in same coach and two seats together. I agree that it completely depends on the cancellation of tickets. But its also true that while relocating the RAC or Waiting List ticket, they allocates in such a manner that the traveler in group shouldn't face a major problem. So if they manage to get them seated in single compartment, they do so. The reason is simple, allocating the group in two different compartment can lead to trouble to TT also. He has to see whether the person in another compartment is there or not and many else things.

Yaa one thing was common in all the case i.e. only two people were traveling (me & my friend, mother & father etc).

Well if its sheer luck, then I wish the same for you Troppo.
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Thank you so much for your helpful replies, everyone.

We will wait and see what happens.
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Dear Ms.Ann,

But its also true that while relocating the RAC or Waiting List ticket, they allocates in such a manner that the traveler in group shouldn't face a major problem.

##You are absolutely correct, but, again, this depends upon the cancellations/unutilised accomodation. Please have a look at the following PNR:
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PNR Number 140-2087335

Journey Details
S. No. Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) From Station To Station Reserved Upto Station Boarding Point Station Class
1 2721 NIZAMUDDIN EXP 1-12-2007 SC CD CD SC SL
S. No.
Booking Status Current Status Coach Position
(Coach No , Berth No., Quota) (Coach No , Berth No.)
Passenger 1 RAC 15 ,GNWL S12, 2 10
Passenger 2 RAC 16 ,GNWL S12, 3 10
Passenger 3 RAC 17 ,GNWL S12, 5 10
Passenger 4 RAC 18 ,GNWL S12, 6 10
Passenger 5 RAC 19 ,GNWL S12, 33 10
Passenger 6 RAC 20 ,GNWL S12, 36 10
Charting Status CHART PREPARED
============================== =======

##You must appreciate the fact that, atleast, they have been accomodated in the same coach, NOT 'serially'.:-)
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 View Post Dear Ms.Ann,

But its also true that while relocating the RAC or Waiting List ticket, they allocates in such a manner that the traveler in group shouldn't face a major problem.

##You are absolutely correct, but, again, this depends upon the cancellations/unutilised accomodation. Please have a look at the following PNR:
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PNR Number 140-2087335

Journey Details
S. No. Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) From Station To Station Reserved Upto Station Boarding Point Station Class
1 2721 NIZAMUDDIN EXP 1-12-2007 SC CD CD SC SL
S. No.
Booking Status Current Status Coach Position
(Coach No , Berth No., Quota) (Coach No , Berth No.)
Passenger 1 RAC 15 ,GNWL S12, 2 10
Passenger 2 RAC 16 ,GNWL S12, 3 10
Passenger 3 RAC 17 ,GNWL S12, 5 10
Passenger 4 RAC 18 ,GNWL S12, 6 10
Passenger 5 RAC 19 ,GNWL S12, 33 10
Passenger 6 RAC 20 ,GNWL S12, 36 10
Charting Status CHART PREPARED
============================== =======

##You must appreciate the fact that, atleast, they have been accomodated in the same coach, NOT 'serially'.:-)
I believe we both are correct. As I said earlier that, in most of cases, I have seen two people in same PNR get the adjacent seats. Its quite logical also. Lets take your above example. Here in same PNR, there are six passenger. The chances of getting two or one seat ticket cancellation is high then getting a group of six seats tickets cancellation. Isn't?

So when the chart is prepared, the railway employer are trying their best to provide a suitable seats to the visitor so they may not face a huge problem while journey. So getting adjacent seat for two people in same PNR is easier then to get the adjacent seat for six people in same PNR. Atleast they get the seats in same coach. Rest all can be set during train journey requesting other travelers & TT to just shuffle up the seats.
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Dear Ms.Ann,

My parents who went to Pune in Navratri had their tickets in Waiting List, got it confirmed, that too in same coach and two seats together.

As I said earlier that, in most of cases, I have seen two people in same PNR get the adjacent seats.

##I am definitely not interested to dispute your observations because they hold good.:-)

##Now, three members of a family, who happen to be my close relatives, were allotted Confirmed Berths in three different coaches at the time of booking itself in the same PNR.
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##Now, three members of a family, who happen to be my close relatives, were allotted Confirmed Berths in three different coaches at the time of booking itself in the same PNR.
Now that is sheer BAD luck

Normally the railways do try to accomadate same PNR numbers together. If you dont then it is sheer bad luck.
Getting seats together is normal as the railways try to do that. :-)


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