RAC Status on Trains

#1 Feb 2nd, 2007, 13:48
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Hi guys

I have booked the Shiv Ganga from Delhi to Varanasi for the 10th of Feb. Would of booked sooner but was busy revising for an exam. When I booked I was RAC 5/3 I think. I know I should be on the train but as it is unsure as to where I will sit will my tickets get to the hotel? Also I have already e-mailed the hotel to say could they hold my tickets do I need to email IRCTC to tell them it is o.k. to leave them with a member of staff?

On the site at present it says Booking Status RAC 8 Current Status RAC 4.

I have looked at the other posts about trains but just wondered if anyone could answer these questions.

Cheers

Todd
#2 Feb 2nd, 2007, 13:55
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I'll leave the hotel situation to another member as I've never had tickets sent to a hotel.

RAC means you are on the train, though only a seat at the moment and not a berth, it is likely that you are now RAC 5/1, but either way, I'd be amazed if your berth reservation didn't become confirmed before the 10th.
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The Railways will always sell you a "ticket", which allows you to sit in the unreserved portion of your train in suitable class. What you are often waiting for is "reservation" in a reserved area such as sleeper coach.
(Premium trains like Shatabdi and Rajdhani may not have any unreserved section).

RAC means Reservation Against Cancellation, which is bureaucratese for, "if others cancel you'd get the reservation".

Fine, you say, but then what is Waiting List?

Here is the difference: (1) In case of Waiting List you are waiting for the reservation; unless and until you get it, you can't board the restricted coach. (2) In RAC, your chances are supposed to be so good that even if the reservation has not come through, you are allowed to board the sleeper coach and hang around until some official comes and tries to locate a berth for you. It would be rare that they can't.
#4 Feb 4th, 2007, 20:40
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...not quite correct....

RAC gets you a place to sit in the class of your booking. Not in any unreserved section.

The berth that you allocated will have one other RAC person sitting on it (in 2AC class, at least). So one RAC getting an actual berth means berths for both of you.

There are only a small number of RAC berths in each carriage.
#5 Feb 5th, 2007, 10:43
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Originally Posted by Nick-H RAC gets you a place to sit in the class of your booking. Not in any unreserved section.
Yes indeed, the class for which you requested reservation and for which they issued RAC.

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The berth that you allocated will have one other RAC person sitting on it (in 2AC class, at least). So one RAC getting an actual berth means berths for both of you.
I am afraid I don't understand this. Most of my experience is with sleepers and a sleeper berth can only accommodate one person. Of course, during day time the same berth can seat many persons. Maybe your comment is somehow related to this, that a compartment can seat more persons than it can sleep?
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In case your ticket is not confirmed(I am quite sure it will be)you will have to share a berth with another RAC passenger, that means you will have to sit thru the night. Go a bit early and check the reservation chart to find your coach & birth number.
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Originally Posted by jyotirmoy In case your ticket is not confirmed(I am quite sure it will be)you will have to share a berth with another RAC passenger, that means you will have to sit thru the night. Go a bit early and check the reservation chart to find your coach & birth number.
Yes that makes sense. I always thought of RAC as "they think there is great chance my reservation will come through, but there are no guarantees and on rare occasions it may not". If it does not, I'd have to travel under sub-optimal conditions, eg, not a full sleeping berth. (AC 3-tier berths would not allow anyone to sit while others are sleeping, reservation or not. So the staff would have to improvise according the actual conditions.)

However, no matter how it turns out, a great advantage of RAC is that you are legally entittled to be present in that coach: On long journeys, something can always work out later.

In contrast, merely holding a ticket or being on the Waiting List would make your presence in that "reservation-only" coach against the law and you could be fined or worse.
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Yes. RAC gets you on the train. That's the important thing
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Just to clarify.

Look at the image below.....

Look at 23 & 24 in 3A, during the day, these are seats that face each other, at night they turn into an upper berth and a lower berth, 24 goes into the upper berth, but instead of 23 turning into a lower berth it is kept as 2 seats, these 2 seats will be used for RAC tickets, meaning there are 3 people in this section, one person (with a confirmed ticket) lying down in the upper berth (24) and two RAC ticket holders sitting in seats 23 & 24, below the upper berth.

If someone (just one person) in the carriage has cancelled in the last 4 hours (when the reservation chart is printed) or simply doesn't turn up for the train, one of the RAC ticket holders (in seats 23 & 24) will be given the empty berth (EG. berth 6), so there will now only be one person left in seats 23 & 24, so these seats will now be turned into a lower berth.

I've had RAC tickets many times, but got a berth on all but one of the trains, that time I just slept on the floor.


From another thread....
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Waitlisted tickets have 2 waitlist numbers.......

WL/15 ----WL/05

The above waitlist number would mean that you joined the waitlist at position 15, but due to cancellations (before and after you bought the ticket) you have now moved to waitlist position 5.

The first number will always remain the same, only the 2nd number will move.

After another 5 cancellations you will move onto an RAC (reserved against cancellation) number, so you will then be.....

WL/15 ----RAC/04 (for example)

RAC gets you a seat, but not a berth.

A berth is kept as 2 seats, one more cancellation or person not showing up in your carriage will allow one of you to take that persons berth and then the 2 seats are turned into a single berth, meaning you both get a berth.

There are only a few RAC positions in each carriage.

WL/15 ----RAC/04 would mean that you would get a confirmed berth after 4 more cancellations.

Most cancellations take place in the last few days before the train is due to depart.

The whole system is very complex, different rules to different trains, this train is more likely to get confirmed berths than that train and so on, and so on.
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I asked for train tickets to be delivered to my hotel, the Gold Regency, before I realized that it was within easy walking distance of the main Delhi ticket office. The tickets were given to me when I checked in. Picking up my other tickets at the office was quick and easy.
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Originally Posted by nedhopkins Picking up my other tickets at the office was quick and easy.
Other tickets, do you mean internet booked tickets?

If so, when was this?

I've been thinking that they wouldn't allow people to collect tickets from the reservation centre now that e-tickets are an option.
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Train ticket confirmation

Hai


I booked train ticket but RAC 34 if its conformed or not ..

otherwise sitting available ...how many passenger allowed in RAC booking?????

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