RAC and Waitlists explained.

UnitZ

Hi VSP,

The fundamental difference is that you are referring to e-ticket whereas I had a i-ticket booked on the irctc website, hence your explained scenario doesn't apply to my case.
I hope that clears a bit more.

UnitZ.

vsp27759

Dear UnitZ,

##The following was your answer to my query:

"Hi,They were bought on the irctc website."

##You did NOT specify whether it is an E-Ticket OR I-Ticket, between which there exists a lot of difference which was explained in detail in other threads.

##Anyhow, thanks for specifying NOW that your's was an I-Ticket.

##The difference between I-Ticket and Ticket Purchased across the Counter is that the I-Ticket holder will NOT be paid the cash if it is presented for cancellation; whereas the normal ticket holder will get back his cash. Except this, all other rules for cancellation that apply to normal ticket will also apply to I-Ticket.

##As such, you should have presented your I-Ticket for cancellation IN THE COUNTER either before OR after the departure of the train OR after arrival at the destination, if you/anyone of you were unable to undertake the journey.

sharonhy

This is my status now
for 0111 from Mumbai to Goa on 4 Apr
S# Booking Status Current Status
1 CNF CNF
2 W/L 1 W/L 1

How likely my ticket will be confirmed.
Also for e-ticket does that mean i just need to print it out and then present it at the station?

steven_ber

Class of travel is the most important bit of info, though in this case it doesn't matter, WL 1 will get confirmed no matter what class.

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sharonhy

Thanks Steve - I'm now much relieved. :-)

daniel212

And about the ticket, you just need to carry the printout of the ticket along with the identification document (Passport) of any of the passenger on this ticket.

You have to presnt the ticket to the Ticket Examiner in the train.

sharonhy

Thanks a lot!

arunchs

Many thanks, steven_ber. I have broken my head over these cryptic codes for a long time! It is all clear now, explained with such simplicity..

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bond007

I've travelled tens of thousands of kms on Indian railways.
As a general rule of thumb i always buy any RAC ticket. I buy a WL ticket only if my WL number is less than the number of days in advance i buy the ticket (exception is when buying 1 week before departure when i double the WL rule :-)

Only once has my WL not been confirmed (to at least an RAC).

peter65

I used to break my head what all these codes and system of WL/RAC, you have very nicely explained it. Thanks a lot.

One doubt, NRIs & POI eligible to get the Tourist quota when they visit india?

bond007

chikkoo- you can use the Tourist quota if you pay in foreign currency or can show a receipt of converting foreign currency to indian rupees...

vinayaklotlikar

I have read the details in your earlier thread just to clarify below are the details of my RAC ticket wanted to confirm that right now as below both the tickets are in RAC which means we both can travel in the train using the side seat.
PNR no 845-1173879.

S. No.
Booking Status Current Status
(Coach No , Berth No., Quota) (Coach No , Berth No.)
Passenger 1 RAC 16 ,GNWL RAC 13
Passenger 2 W/L 1 ,GNWL RAC 14


Please revert.

Rgds
Vinayak

steven_ber

At the moment, you will both get a seat, though it won't be a side berth as these aren't used for RAC in 2-tier air con.

There are 4 RAC berths per 2-tier air con carriage.

There will be six people sitting on berths 1 and 3 (the lower berths), two of those people will sleep on berths 2 and 4 (the upper berths) leaving 4 people sitting on the lower berths.

If there are any last minute cancellations (after chart preperation) or if someone simply doesn't turn up, then one of the people sitting on berth 1 (their current status would be RAC 1) will be given the vacant berth, and the other person (RAC 2) will use berth 1 as his bed.

Then if another person doesn't turn up, then a person sitting on berth 2 (RAC 3) gets that vacant berth and RAC 4 gets berth 2 to sleep on.

The above explains what happens if there is only one 2-tier air con carriage.

There are 4 x 2-tier air con carriages on the Mumbai Rajdhani, the same system operates in each carriage.

To be fair, Indian Railways puts RAC1 (current status) in A1 (2-tier air con carriage 1), then RAC2 in A2, RAC3 in A3, RAC4 in A4, RAC5 in A1 and so on...(it could also work just as fair if they put RAC 1&2 in A1, RAC 3&4 in A2....), but they wouldn't split up 2 persons on the same ticket (PNR) as this would put them in different carriages.

So RAC 16 is no worse than RAC 9, and RAC 8 is no worse than RAC 1.

I hope all the above isn't too complex.

However, you have every chance of your tickets becoming confirmed before 24th May, at the very least, you should both move to below RAC 8, giving you a very good chance of getting confirmed berths once the train departs.

vinayaklotlikar

Hi,

Thanks for the clarification, one more question is this RAC status keeps on changing at the same time some cancellation is done or it will be displayed to me on the day of my journey since i have checked the status as of today the same is not changed.

Thanks & Regards
Vinayak

steven_ber

You're RAC position will change in real-time as cancellations happen.

But you may not see a lot of movement until the last week.