RAC and Waitlists explained.

There will three persons.
One will sleep on upper side berth whose berth is confirmed.
And other remaining two will share the lower side berth.

Thank you, Now I understand

Your post now Needs an update on some points like"
1)Tatkal tickets can now only be booked only 1 Day in advance,
2)Waitlist passengers can board train in Non-AC Sleeper Coaches however not guaranteed any seat any rely on mercy of other passengers,
3)Waitlist ticket booked from Internet is liable to be cancelled in case it didn't get confirmed status while the one booked from railway counter will not get cancelled.

Hello Everyone,

I am new to India Mike! Been reading posts for quite a long time but could get around to joining only now

This article and thread is some incredible work! Great job, unparalleled!

Well here is something I came across today. This is about the 12257 Yeshwantpur - Kochuveli Garib Rath (one of my favorite trains) which leaves at 2100 on May 3 (today). When I inquired for the Tatkal status from YPR to KTYM

Train Number Train Name Date
(DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
12257 KOCHUVELI GR 3-5-2012 YESVANTPUR JN KOTTAYAM TATKAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A
1 3- 5-2012 WL 40/WL 18
2 6- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 374
3 8- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 374

CBE to KCVL

12257 KOCHUVELI GR 4-5-2012 COIMBATORE JN KOCHUVELI TATKAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A
1 4- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 32
2 7- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 374
3 9- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 374

KTYM to KCVL

12257 KOCHUVELI GR 4-5-2012 KOTTAYAM KOCHUVELI TATKAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A
1 4- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 60
2 7- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 374
3 9- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 374

In this case, I have three doubts:

1. Are there quotas within the Tatkal quota? Because it looks like there are RL type quotas for CBE and ERN. But funnily, the status in GN quota is the same WL for all stations on the route! (1 3- 5-2012 WL 356/WL 25)

2. Can quotas be changed according to the day by the Railways? Because, we see that on later days there seem to be RL quotas for CBE and ERN even in General quota, while today it does not.

(Please note the date discrepancy: It is the same train that leaves from YPR on the 3rd that reaches KTYM on 4th)

12257 KOCHUVELI GR 3-5-2012 YESVANTPUR JN KOCHUVELI GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A
1 3- 5-2012 WL 356/WL 25
2 6- 5-2012 WL 408/WL 118
3 8- 5-2012 WL 240/WL 86
4 10- 5-2012 WL 271/WL 127

12257 KOCHUVELI GR 4-5-2012 KOTTAYAM KOCHUVELI GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A
1 4- 5-2012 WL 356/WL 25
2 7- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 4
3 9- 5-2012 WL 240/WL 86
4 11- 5-2012 AVAILABLE 26

3. The total number of CK (tatkal) seats shows 374 between all three station pairs. But how come it got split later (for today's train - question above?)

4. Finally, we have 17 in the WL and 92 available. So after chart prep, we will still have (92-17) 75 CK berths vacant! I guess this will be used to clear RAC of 108 and WL of 25? So in the end everyone who booked a ticket on this train gets a seat I guess?

I would be grateful if anyone could answer these questions? Thanks a Lot!

The GR has a single quota for all stations. What're you're seeing probably was caused like this: Many people booked CK berths upto Coimbatore/Ernakulam/Kottayam from Yesvantpur on this train. However, a corresponding number of people did not book berths onward from Coimbatore/Ernakulam/Kottayam to Kochuveli. Hence, seats are available for these sectors, though the train is full between Yesvantpur and Coimbatore.

If there are empty berths (Arising from unutilised Tatkal/Ladies/Senior Citizen/Defence/Foreign Tourist/High Official quotas respectively) they will be released to clear the general/tatkal RAC/Waitlists. Tatkal WLs get priority over the general Waitlist. In this case, if as you say, there are vacancies in the Tatkal Quota, they will be released to clear general RAC/WL.

Hope this helps.

The article is amazing and daunting all at once. However, I wonder about this: I have WL-1 and I'm a senior citizen, according to the railways. I will be traveling on that WL-1 on my birthday (and I'm female). Any chance I can wheedle my way on the train? Thanks!

Not really. But why not provide some details about your journey? (Date, from - to, train, class of travel). We'd be able to provide you with predictions of how likely the ticket is to confirm.

Hi, I leave this Friday (hopefully) from Chakki Bank to Delhi on an overnight train that leaves (I think) circa ten p.m. and I'm WL-1 for 1A class. I understand that the chart doesn't get made until 4 hours before the train leaves that station, but that's hard when the train station is a 2 1/2 hour cab ride. Any thoughts on the likelihood I'll turn that WL-1 into something like first class?

LauraD

Can you tell us the train number? It will improve the chances of you getting a prediction

There are trains with 1AC from Chakki Bank to Delhi (or New Delhi) at 20.05 , 21.30 , 22.25 and 23.05 .

Hi, it's the Uttar S. Kranti, # 12446, and actually, I can't find right now what time it leaves. (I know, I know, it's rather basic, but I seem to recall at 22:00 or thereabouts, and I plan on getting there at 20:00 at the latest. Frankly, I can't find where to find the time it leaves at in the system.)

Here's the full sched:
1 UHP UDHAMPUR 1 Source 19:05 0 1
2 RMJK RAM NAGAR J K 1 19:17 19:19 2:00 10 1
3 JAT JAMMU TAWI 1 20:25 20:40 15:00 54 1
4 KTHU KATHUA 1 21:42 21:44 2:00 130 1
5 CHKB CHAKKI BANK 1 22:20 22:25 5:00 153 1
6 JRC JALANDHAR CANT 1 00:05 00:10 5:00 266 2
7 LDH LUDHIANA JN 1 01:00 01:15 15:00 318 2
8 UMB AMBALA CANT JN 1 02:55 03:05 10:00 432 2
9 PNP PANIPAT JN 1 04:19 04:21 2:00 540 2
10 NDLS NEW DELHI 1 06:10 Destination 630 2

It arrivs at Chakki Bank at 2220 provided there are no delays and leaves after 5 minutes at 2225 !

#Try Train Schedule at this site: www.indianrail.gov.in

Thanks, I did find it. So...what are my chances of getting on with a WL-1 for 1AC?

Laura
Your train has a full 1AC coach rather than a half one which should improve your chances a little. Unless somebody who is already confirmed cancels you will not know the definite outcome until charting.

Thanks. I wouldn't mind a second class seat (2 AC?) in the women's car, but I imagine those are hard to get and I'd have to wait until I got to Chakki Bank.

There is no 2 AC Women's car. The Only womens car that trains have is half an Unreserved coach near the Guard's cabin at the end of the train.