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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 18:25   #136
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Please give me your PNR Number. There is nothing known as coach number ! The PNR number is a 10 digit number on your ticket, or just type here the exact detail as printed on your ticket.. PNR would help determine your train and also the class etc properly! Happy to supplement Steven-Ber's reply. Good wishes.
The berth numbers and locations (LB, SU etc.) could only be 2A, and there's only 1 x 2A carriage on the JSM-DLI train, so they're all in A1.
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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 18:29   #137
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The detail on the ticket is:

Me: /confirm/A1/0046/SL
My Wife: /confirm/A1/0024/SU
My Daughter: /confirm/A1/0044/UB

Actually with your help I have worked it out. We are in carriage A1 and we have seats/berths 46, 24 and 44. Given that 44 and 46 are very close I can swap with my wife and she can have 46 and then we can try and swap me into 43 or 45. There was no option for a first class sleeper on the train from Jaisalmer to Delhi.

It does say coach No on the ticket but you are correct, no 41, 42 etc. It's carriage A1.

Given this, and given that we will have been in India for a few weeks by then I think we should be fine with this. I'll also see what IRCTC say.

Mind you, if you want some irony: the bank just put a stop on mt credit card after booking this and I had to ring them to unblock it. I don't mind as one does have to be careful

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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 18:34   #138
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Dear Murli,

No need for any PNR Number. He has got three confirmed berths in A1.
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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 21:29   #139
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The detail on the ticket is:

Me: /confirm/A1/0046/SL
My Wife: /confirm/A1/0024/SU
My Daughter: /confirm/A1/0044/UB

Actually with your help I have worked it out. We are in carriage A1 and we have seats/berths 46, 24 and 44. Given that 44 and 46 are very close I can swap with my wife and she can have 46 and then we can try and swap me into 43 or 45. There was no option for a first class sleeper on the train from Jaisalmer to Delhi.

It does say coach No on the ticket but you are correct, no 41, 42 etc. It's carriage A1.

Given this, and given that we will have been in India for a few weeks by then I think we should be fine with this. I'll also see what IRCTC say.

Mind you, if you want some irony: the bank just put a stop on mt credit card after booking this and I had to ring them to unblock it. I don't mind as one does have to be careful

DS
Right on!. Glad it has all worked out. Good luck and good wishes for a safe, comfortable and enjoyable trip. As has been pointed out, you can always request the co passengers if they don't mind adjusting at least during the day time. It works. People generally adjust to see families together, and there is of course lot of affection for children. Good wishes.
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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 21:30   #140
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Dear Murli,

No need for any PNR Number. He has got three confirmed berths in A1.

Yes Sir. Noted. I want to learn the tricks of the trade from you in the short period we are meeting, and then I will pester you like a small child. Be prepared for that sir

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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 22:27   #141
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Just a sidenote, asking people to provide their PNR number is asking them to tell in public exactly when and where they'll be at a given point in time and space.

That's up to everyone themselves and/but while the risks may be small, I think as a matter of principle it's a good idea to not entice them to get quite as precise, and/or to educate them in being a little careful in what they choose to share on something as public as the web.

(Think of a poster whose post history may show them to be an insecure and perhaps a little naive young lady -- or naive young or older man or whatever for that matter, fill in the dots -- on a first trip to India, carrying a laptop and a state-of-the-art camera, perhaps in some discussions having disclosed pretty accurately where they keep their money. You can probably see how the issue might not be a totally innocent one. Certainly not when some Indian members even unabashedly tell us they like to know by the seat preparation charts where the ladies are seated on a given train! Probably mostly to serve their own immature fantasies if you ask me, I mean what could they realistically do with that information, but still.)

Generally and to answer e.g. a waitlist query, it would suffice (and indeed cannot be answered without it) to know what train, from what station to what station (I guess the arrival station is in fact not even very relevant?), on what date, and in which train class. That's getting pretty close already as it is anyway.
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Just a sidenote, asking people to provide their PNR number is asking them to tell in public exactly when and where they'll be at a given point in time and space.

Generally and to answer e.g. a waitlist query, it would suffice (and indeed cannot be answered without it) to know what train, from what station to what station (I guess the arrival station is in fact not even relevant?), on what date, and in which train class. That's getting pretty close already as it is anyway.
@machadinha.. you are quite right. Perhaps, no rather I WAS over-enthusiastic without considering the implications of my query. I apologize to everyone. Good wishes.
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Old Nov 30th, 2009, 23:43   #143
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No apologies, Mr. Murli. Just keeping our/my i's dotted

Really like your contributions to these train (as well as other) threads, for that matter. I personally just can't answer a lot of the nitty-gritty of it, and am forever in awe of some of you guys who diligently do. Keep up the good work!
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I got a reply from ICRTC and they suggested talking to other passengers about swapping seats too! That looks to be the best option.

Thanks for the help.

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I got a reply from ICRTC and they suggested talking to other passengers about swapping seats too! That looks to be the best option.

Thanks for the help.

DS

My pleasure entirely Very glad to be of some use. Enjoy your stay in India, and do let this forum know your experiences, thoughts, compliment AND BRICKBATS Good wishes.
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Old Dec 25th, 2009, 11:33   #146
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Lightbulb Modification Required Steve

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EDITOR'S NOTE: This post has been promoted to the Articles section. You can read it in its entirety here:

Indian Railways RAC and Waitlists explained



Please read the article before posting questions
about the Wait-List system. Yours is probably answered already.


If you are still concerned about a WL status for your journey, please
ask on this thread:

Post your Wait List "Will it Get Confirmed" Queries HERE ONLY!

Please do not start new threads for will-I-get-on-my-train questions.



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Hey Steve, U have done a very brilliant job! But due to modification in tatkal rules, a little modification is equired to this article. Tatkal now opens three days before departure. Hope this input makes ur work even more useful for the readers
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Hey Steve, U have done a very brilliant job! But due to modification in tatkal rules, a little modification is equired to this article. Tatkal now opens three days before departure. Hope this input makes ur work even more useful for the readers
I checked out your website Steve/Moderator.. it still shows Tatkal as 5 days in advance of date of journey.. so this is NOt a question about How/Will I, but something that needs to be corrected on your well researched article on Booking Railway tickets. Jeet has correctly mentioned that the TATKAL quota is now only 2 days before date of journey. Therefore, your article needs CORRECTION.

Merry Christmas and good wishes to one and all.
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I had bought 3 tatkal tkts for today's journey on Hampi Express SBC-HPT (#6592). AT that time, all 3 were waitlisted, but today 2 got confirmed. So I decided to print it out, but the printout version shows the same original WL status.
The printout clearly states
Booking status/Current status/CoachNo/Seat NO
CKWL 2/CKWL 2/0000/
CKWL 3/CKWL 3/0000/
CKWL 4/CKWL 3/0000/

So how can I carry the proof that I KNOW 2 tkts have moved from WL to CNF?.

Also, online, even though it says CNF for 2 tkts, it has not assigned any coach/berth.

Can anyone throw some light on this?

Thanks,
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The printout clearly states
Booking status/Current status/CoachNo/Seat NO
CKWL 2/CKWL 2/0000/
CKWL 3/CKWL 3/0000/
CKWL 4/CKWL 3/0000/
##There is a mistake in the print-out taken by you. If it is CKWL.2/CKWL.2, CKWL.3/CKWL.3, then it has to be CKWL.4/CKWL.4, but it CANNOT be 4/3 under any circumstances!!!!

##The Hampi departs from SBC at 22.30 hrs; and hence, the Final Charts will come out at or after 18.30 hrs., but certainly before 20.30 hrs.

##You can check the status of your PNR at the following link:

http://www.indianrail.gov.in/pnr_stat.html

......and then, you have to take the print-out!!!!
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but it CANNOT be 4/3 under any circumstances!!!!
Sorry, that was a typo on my part. It is 4/4

My point is that my current printout does not match with what is bring shown online.


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http://www.indianrail.gov.in/pnr_stat.html

......and then, you have to take the print-out!!!!
Thanks for the idea. I just copied and pasted and printed.

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