Preparation of reservation chart just four hours before actual departure of train

#1 Sep 12th, 2011, 20:44
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Why is it that the reservation chart of a train prepared just four hours before the actual departure of the train and not earlier than that? Is it because that the railway authorities wait till the final position emerges and try to allot waitlisted passengers under the same PNR seats as close to each other as possible?
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Originally Posted by Newton View Post Why is it that the reservation chart of a train prepared just four hours before the actual departure of the train and not earlier than that? Is it because that the railway authorities wait till the final position emerges and try to allot waitlisted passengers under the same PNR seats as close to each other as possible?
yes this is correct.
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More because there are quite a few seats used up in many quotas, the status of these is known only a few hours before, so thats one of the reasons.
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.............and, the Bookings for a particular train is stopped four hours before the scheduled departure, whereas the Charts are finalised two to three hours before the departure of the train. Sometimes, due to certain unforeseen reasons, the Charts are finalised one hour before the scheduled departure of the train.
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One can book the ticket, till the Charting work is taken-up, which in fact, takes about 5-10 minutes, and then a command is given for printing of the Charts.
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Once this command given, we will get an indication that CHART IS PREPARED.
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Once the Charts come out, the E-Tickets cannot be cancelled "on-line".
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Sorry to correct you VSP Sir, but it should have been 'Confirmed e-tickets' in the last line of your earlier post.
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Originally Posted by dipyamanbasu View Post Sorry to correct you VSP Sir, but it should have been 'Confirmed e-tickets' in the last line of your earlier post.
##I am sorry, Boss, whether it is confirmed or RAC, you cannot cancel it on-line after Charting and in any case, the Waitlisted E-Tickets get cancelled after Charting. Hence, I simply said "E-Tickets".
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 View Post ##I am sorry, Boss, whether it is confirmed or RAC, you cannot cancel it on-line after Charting and in any case, the Waitlisted E-Tickets get cancelled after Charting. Hence, I simply said "E-Tickets".
Okay!
Partially Waitlisted Ticket should then excluded here!
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The entire reservation chrting ystem is flawed. At the last 2/3/4 hours, a wait listed passenger cannot make any alternative travel plan after transporting all luggage etc., to station.
Instead, if the charing is done 24 hours before and notified, it will be helpful to all. All vacant seats thereafter may be clearly notified and also sold by railways to those wait listed passengers who prefer to still take a chance, after the charting is done, even may be at a premium.This will effectively avoid over-crowding in reserved coaches.
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4 hours is the cut-off time needed by VIPs to decide if they want to travel by a train. 1 hr to pack bags, 1 hr to have lunch/dinner, 1 hr to make phone calls to their bosses/subordinates at destination, 1 hr to reach the station. the charting cut-off is based on that timeline. if they have decided not to exercise their 'privilege', all mere mortals (aka indian citizens) should kiss their feet & hope to get some of the seats left vacant by them.
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Chart preparation time say 4 hrs before the train departure

Netravati train departs from Source 12 noon LTT
Arrives at my station at 2300 KRMI
The same arrives at my W/L booked destination 1330 next day DNIR
Train terminating point TVC 1930

Now, chart preparation 4 hours before the train departure, what that means?
4 hrs before departure at source (LTT)?
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4 hrs before departure at KRMI ?

I have a waitlisted ticket on 2AC leaving 5 days from now W/L 12/9, also returning week later W/L 8/6, booked 2 days ago status remained the same. Train has only one 2AC compartment of 46 berths I think. My chances of getting Confirmed Ticket? Thanks.
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It is 4 hours prior to the departure from source. In your case from LTT.

You may cross-check your position at Karmali railway station (your Boarding station) at around evening. They would be in position to clear any doubt.
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thank. In order not to take any chances, was thinking of booking sleeper class too W/L also at 16 so that I go by the same train
by cancelling unconfirmed tickets a day before departure. WL6 & WL 9 in 2AC may not get me a confirm seat
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You may! It would be a safer bet!
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My W/L status shrink to 4 on 15th but since then or till now 18/9/14 5am no change.
Today at 10am when the Tatkal booking opens, I decided to buy in that quota Rs.400 extra, and then cancel the W/L ticket.
Under Tatkal quota 10 available in 2AC, 60 in 3AC and 224 SL per train (Netravati)
Total Normal/Tatkal fare
2AC 1570/1985
3AC 1085/1400
SL 405/530

For today 18/9/14 Train leaves 11.40am LTT (Chart preparation timing would be 7.40 i.e. 4hrs before departure)
5am booking status shows 2ac/3ac/SL
W/L 4
W/L 5
W/L 19

Tatkal for today's train available as of 5am (booking must have started yesterday at 10am)
2AC = 4
3AC = 17
SL = 79

W/L Booking status for 19/9/14 shows as of now
5, 10 and 29 respectively

When I cancel my W/L 2AC ticket all they charge me Clerkage i.e Rs.15 in my case, I suppose.
“clerkage” means a charge levied by a railway administration for the clerical work rendered by it in the refund of fares.
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I just realised there is another Specific thread here on waitlisted queries.
From there I found out that it is very difficult to get confirm under PQWL waited listed tickets.
Mine is under PQWL (Pooled Quota Wait list)

I was wondering why Margao (MAO) which is next station after Karmali was showing less under RLWL (Remote Location Wait list)?
If I had booked MAO-DINR instead of KRMI-DINR, my ticket would have got confirmed by now.

e.g. Tatkal availability from Karmali station shows 2 as of now but the same from Madgaon says 4

Looks like Margao/MAO being major station has additional quota

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