Non-AC First class gone?

earth.anon

Sorry if this information exists already but I couldn't find it easily. I was browsing various train databases and noticed that I didnt see any non-AC 1st class bogies on trains!

Are the old non-ac 1st class not around anymore? In good weather, they were better than the AC, since you could open the windows and still have a closed compartment for your family's privacy.

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Nattusbs

They have been phased out, although, I gather there are certain routes (say south west India) where they do still run.

I know that Steven_ber is a big fan of the old 1st class (non-AC), but, I remember my childhood days when we used to take these frequently - it was too dusty - presumably due to the smoke from the steam engines in those days.

I do feel that II AC today is the way to travel - comfortable and you still get to meet many Indians - III AC is a bit crowded for my liking.

Cheers

Nattusbs

arunganpath

There are first class coaches but are not very popular today and hence only a few trains have them.

wichy

Oh it's a pity!!! I just love first non-AC class!!! And - I tried to find any train with FC for my future route - and couldn't... :-(

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girlfromvenus

I have booked 2 rides in non AC first class for August:
Villuparam to Madurai
Madurai to Varkala

so I consider myself lucky

Indizen

FC non-AC has been phased out. Only a few trains might still be existing with this class, which only one IM member can tell you about.

chits007

I know few train which has FC berths
Mysore-Tirupati Passenger has FC.

New Jalpaiguri-Darjeeling 1D
Mettupalaym-OOTY
Kalka-Shimla
Kangra train might also has FC

thirdreel

I've booked one as well, Haridwar-Amritsar. I'm making it a goal to try as many train classes as possible, though I haven't decided whether I'm braving 2S. When I saw that FC was available on the HW/ASR train, I gave it a go. (4631 DDN ASR EXPRESS)

vsp27759

Dear Indizen,

FC non-AC has been phased out.

##Not yet,Sir. There are number of trains, going out of Madras which still provode FC Accomodation.

##There is FC Coach in 213/214 MYS-TPTY Passenger and 563/564 HYB-PBN Passengers.

bijapuri

most FC non AC seems to be chair cars, the berths are mostly long gone.
Or am I wrong?

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Indizen

I actually meant, it is being phased out as the railways do not find FC financially viable any more. Most trains in the north do not have this class, AC classes have replaced non-AC FC in most rakes.

vsp27759

Dear Bijapuri,

most FC non AC seems to be chair cars, the berths are mostly long gone.Or am I wrong?

##You are NOT wrong,Sir. There used to be non-AC First Class Chair Cars in the olden days which have since been replaced with First Class AC.Chair Cars (**2x2seating) otherwise known as
Executive Class, normally found only in some of the Shatabdhi Expresses.

##We had First Class Coaches also (non-AC) with 3 Coupes & 3 Cabins. These coaches have been replaced by 3AC coaches in majority of the trains, but are being continuedd in few trains, but the authorities have also started IAC Coaches in some premium trains.

bijapuri

AC wouldn't be so bad if the windows weren't so dirty and badly tinted- makes photography and even simple viewing a disappointment.

wichy

Oh, thanks God!!! I've found non-AC first class car in 3 trains on my route!!! Hope I'll manage to have tickets!!!

There are more trains with FC in south trains - exp.in Tamil-Nadu.

davef22

TVC Express from Chennai-Trivandrum has First CLASS non-ac.