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I've faced this when trying to book tickets on the Karnataka Express, 1A, Bhusaval to Bangalore. There is no quota for this leg - it just says REGRET/RLWL 1. I figured bookings weren't permitted at all until I found that it was showing AVAILABLE 1 or AVAILABLE 2 etc on a few random days. So I tried a little experiment - I booked a ticket from Delhi to Bhusaval and voila! The availability for my chosen date had changed from REGRET/RLWL 1 to AVAILABLE 1 - I booked a Bhusaval-Bangalore ticket and then cancelled my Delhi-Bhusaval ticket and had a confirmed BSL-SBC one.
Great thinking.

Very useful info, a real crafty trick, can't wait to try this one day.


I wonder if a ticket was booked from Patna to CTC (or BBS) if the availability would go up to 3 from BBS (although the berths wouldn't all be together).
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Quite likely that is a correct explanation.
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Originally Posted by aloke_m View Post This can sometimes happen if someone books from any earlier station upto BBS. So if many people have booked upto BBS, since more seats are available BBS onwards, the quota shows extra seats.

I've faced this when trying to book tickets on the Karnataka Express, 1A, Bhusaval to Bangalore. There is no quota for this leg - it just says REGRET/RLWL 1. I figured bookings weren't permitted at all until I found that it was showing AVAILABLE 1 or AVAILABLE 2 etc on a few random days. So I tried a little experiment - I booked a ticket from Delhi to Bhusaval and voila! The availability for my chosen date had changed from REGRET/RLWL 1 to AVAILABLE 1 - I booked a Bhusaval-Bangalore ticket and then cancelled my Delhi-Bhusaval ticket and had a confirmed BSL-SBC one.

It is however possible that the same explanation may not be correct in your case. Not totally sure.
this theory certainly makes a lot more sense. that would explain why availability goes UP after a few days.
anyway, in my case, i need 3 tkts for sure, so i think i'm better off booking from CTC to get assured availability...
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Originally Posted by aloke_m View Post I booked a ticket from Delhi to Bhusaval and voila! The availability for my chosen date had changed from REGRET/RLWL 1 to AVAILABLE 1 - I booked a Bhusaval-Bangalore ticket and then cancelled my Delhi-Bhusaval ticket and had a confirmed BSL-SBC one.
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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post Great thinking.

Very useful info, a real crafty trick, can't wait to try this one day.
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post Quite likely that is a correct explanation.
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Originally Posted by paramiyer View Post this theory certainly makes a lot more sense. that would explain why availability goes UP after a few days.
anyway, in my case, i need 3 tkts for sure, so i think i'm better off booking from CTC to get assured availability...
Hmmm !!!

Try it, but on the qt. Because once the railways knows about it, they'll just clamp it down. Airlines used to have a (and still do) a hidden city ticketing/pricing. But they have clamped down on people who exploited the loophole, and sometimes the airlines do nasty things such as scrap the whole itn. and worse.
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thanks!

thanks to everyone for their inputs & suggestions. special thanks to steven for the info on CTC quota. i did manage to get 3 seats in 3A for CTC-PGT. just a few minutes later, i noted that it has already gone to WL... BBS-PGT still has 2 seats available & i'm tempted to try that trick (pnbe-bbs booking), but i'm quite sure i won't get the seats together, looking at my past track record
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Originally Posted by paramiyer View Post in both the cases, the MAS-PGT portion is still in PQ quota with low number of berths, thus increasing the risk of WL.
Sir,

##In future if you have to travel by 2623 make the booking upto KTYM and in case of 2685 upto CLT. Please take a look at this:
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12623 TRIVANDRUM MAIL 13-1-2013 CHENNAI CENTRAL TRIVANDRUM CNTL GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 13- 1-2013 GNWL402/WL61 GNWL181/WL4
2 14- 1-2013 GNWL262/WL99 GNWL79/WL4
3 15- 1-2013 GNWL408/WL235 GNWL70/WL14
4 16- 1-2013 GNWL429/WL282 GNWL74/WL32
5 17- 1-2013 GNWL318/WL105 GNWL69/WL5
6 18- 1-2013 GNWL240/WL113 GNWL51/WL27
................
12623 TRIVANDRUM MAIL 13-1-2013 CHENNAI CENTRAL KOTTAYAM GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 13- 1-2013 GNWL402/WL61 GNWL181/WL4
2 14- 1-2013 GNWL262/WL99 GNWL79/WL4
3 15- 1-2013 GNWL408/WL235 GNWL70/WL14
4 16- 1-2013 GNWL429/WL282 GNWL74/WL32
5 17- 1-2013 GNWL318/WL105 GNWL69/WL5
6 18- 1-2013 GNWL240/WL113 GNWL51/WL27
============================== ====
12685 MANGALORE EXP 13-1-2013 CHENNAI CENTRAL MANGALORE CNTL GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 13- 1-2013 GNWL264/WL65 GNWL71/WL22
2 14- 1-2013 GNWL169/WL44 GNWL29/WL6
3 15- 1-2013 GNWL164/WL55 GNWL23/WL9
4 16- 1-2013 GNWL127/WL50 GNWL15/WL8
5 17- 1-2013 GNWL76/WL35 GNWL17/WL9
6 18- 1-2013 GNWL91/WL52 GNWL21/WL14
......................
12685 MANGALORE EXP 13-1-2013 CHENNAI CENTRAL KOZHIKODE GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 13- 1-2013 GNWL264/WL65 GNWL71/WL22
2 14- 1-2013 GNWL169/WL44 GNWL29/WL6
3 15- 1-2013 GNWL164/WL55 GNWL23/WL9
4 16- 1-2013 GNWL127/WL50 GNWL15/WL8
5 17- 1-2013 GNWL76/WL35 GNWL17/WL9
6 18- 1-2013 GNWL91/WL52 GNWL21/WL14
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##On the other hand, it need to be found out in which train MAS>>PGT comes under GN.Quota.
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Originally Posted by aloke_m View Post I've faced this when trying to book tickets on the Karnataka Express, 1A, Bhusaval to Bangalore. There is no quota for this leg - it just says REGRET/RLWL 1.
##Please note that NDLS>>BSL IAC had now been put under PQ. Kindly have a look at this:
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12628 KARNATAKA EXP 13-1-2013 NEW DELHI BHUSAVAL JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 1A Class -2A
1 13- 1-2013 PQWL9/WL3 PQWL29/WL18
2 14- 1-2013 PQWL6/WL5 PQWL36/WL14
3 15- 1-2013 PQWL4/WL3 REGRET/PQWL20
4 16- 1-2013 PQWL8/WL8 PQWL31/WL17
5 17- 1-2013 PQWL9/WL8 REGRET/PQWL21
6 18- 1-2013 PQWL7/WL4 PQWL37/WL18
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Originally Posted by aloke_m View Post I've faced this when trying to book tickets on the Karnataka Express, 1A, Bhusaval to Bangalore. There is no quota for this leg - it just says REGRET/RLWL 1. I figured bookings weren't permitted at all until I found that it was showing AVAILABLE 1 or AVAILABLE 2 etc on a few random days.
##Please take a look at this:
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12628 KARNATAKA EXP 13-1-2013 NEW DELHI BHUSAVAL JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 1A Class -2A
1 13- 1-2013 PQWL9/WL3 PQWL29/WL18
2 14- 1-2013 PQWL6/WL5 PQWL36/WL14
3 15- 1-2013 PQWL4/WL3 REGRET/PQWL20
4 16- 1-2013 PQWL8/WL8 PQWL31/WL17
5 17- 1-2013 PQWL9/WL8 REGRET/PQWL21
6 18- 1-2013 PQWL7/WL4 PQWL37/WL18
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12628 KARNATAKA EXP 13-1-2013 MANMAD JN BANGALORE CY JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 1A Class -2A
1 13- 1-2013 Charting Done Charting Done
2 14- 1-2013 REGRET/RLWL1 RLWL10/WL4
3 15- 1-2013 REGRET/RLWL1 RLWL9/WL1
4 16- 1-2013 REGRET/RLWL1 RLWL11/WL8
5 17- 1-2013 REGRET/RLWL1 RLWL9/WL4
6 18- 1-2013 REGRET/RLWL1 RLWL12/WL1
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12628 KARNATAKA EXP 12-4-2013 NEW DELHI BANGALORE CY JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 1A Class -2A
1 12- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 8 AVAILABLE 10
2 13- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 8 AVAILABLE 20
3 14- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 8 AVAILABLE 14
4 15- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 12 AVAILABLE 7
5 16- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 12 AVAILABLE 7
6 17- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 11 AVAILABLE 11
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12628 KARNATAKA EXP 13-4-2013 KOPARGAON BANGALORE CY JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 1A Class -2A
1 13- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 1 REGRET/RLWL1
2 14- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 4 REGRET/RLWL1
3 15- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 2 REGRET/RLWL1
4 16- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 4 REGRET/RLWL1
5 17- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 4 REGRET/RLWL1
6 18- 4-2013 AVAILABLE 4 AVAILABLE 1
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##For your future reference. :-)
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 View Post Sir,

##In future if you have to travel by 2623 make the booking upto KTYM and in case of 2685 upto CLT.
##On the other hand, it need to be found out in which train MAS>>PGT comes under GN.Quota.
thanks for the advice. much appreciated.
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##On the other hand, it need to be found out in which train MAS>>PGT comes under GN.Quota.
There are two, the Chennai Trivandrum Express (12695) and the Chennai Mangalore Express (16107)

It is another story that very few passengers are likely to choose these trains fro MAS-PGT travel.
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Originally Posted by aloke_m View Post There are two, the Chennai Trivandrum Express (12695) and the Chennai Mangalore Express (16107)

It is another story that very few passengers are likely to choose these trains fro MAS-PGT travel.
thanks for the tip. the timing did not match in this case, but a very useful backup plan indeed...
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Originally Posted by paramiyer View Post thanks for the tip. the timing did not match in this case, but a very useful backup plan indeed...
Sir,

##Out of these two, please ignore 6107, as it takes a longer route.

##Please have a look at it's schedule:
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16107 MS MANGALORE EX CHENNAI EGMORE MON TUE WED THU FRI SAT SUN


1A 2A FC 3A CC SL 2S 3E
Valid Classes Y Y N Y N Y Y N
Number of Coach 1 1 - 2 - 10 7 -

SNo Stn Code Stn Name Route No. Arrival Time Dep. Time Halt Time (In Minutes) Distance Day Remark
1 MS CHENNAI EGMORE 1 Source 22:15 0 1
11 TPJ TIRUCHCHIRAPALI 1 04:50 05:00 10:00 336 2
19 ED ERODE JN 1 08:25 08:35 10:00 478 2
24 CBE COIMBATORE JN 1 10:55 11:00 5:00 578 2
26 PGT PALAKKAD 1 12:55 13:00 5:00 633 2
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Mr Paramiyer
I am from cuttack. Quite new to traveling. Just a silly query. Could you please explain what does PQWL stands for in Indian railways.
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Originally Posted by manoj ctc View Post Mr Paramiyer
I am from cuttack. Quite new to traveling. Just a silly query. Could you please explain what does PQWL stands for in Indian railways.
as i understand PQWL is Pooled Quota Waiting List. This indicates that your journey is part of a quota allocated to intermediate journeys (instead of end-to-end).
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PQWL is a start-end quota.
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