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Old May 14th, 2008, 16:01   #1
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Lightbulb Need to know about WL tickets...

Hi All,

I want to know about RLWL tickets.

And just want to know that,

(1) I have a ticket from Vadodara (BRC) to PUNE on 8th June 2008 and that is WL 75 for SL Class in 1049/KOLHAPUR Exp. Is there a chance of getting this ticket confirmed ? And if not confirmed can I travel in SL Class with an e-ticket ( printed ticket and not one from Indian Rail ) ? Please let me know.

(2) And I have two tickets from Ahemedabad (ADI) to PUNE on 16th June 2008 and that is RLWL 10 & RLWL 11 for SL Class in 6531/YPR GARIB NAWAH Exp. Is there a chance of getting this ticket confirmed ?

Please let me know as soon as possible.

Thanks to all in advance,
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Old May 15th, 2008, 11:00   #2
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1. There are good chances of getting this confirmed or RAC as the whole train is being operated in single quota which is applied wehn you book from ADI or BRC and also whether the ticket is upto PUNE or KOP. Moreover, the max berths for this common quota is around 450 berths.

2. I suggest you wait till the last 5 days of the jourhey date and monitor the tatkal quota. If the tatkal quota is getting exhausted quickly, then you can book the tickets in that quota. If there are several tatkal berths remaining

3. This train is very convenient overnight/weekend connection between ADI and PUNE. So there will be no surpirse when tatkal quota exhausted very quickly. (In some trains within few minutes after 8 am, all tatkal quota berths get booked)

4. if it is a WaitListed e-ticket, but not confirmed, then the passengers are not supposed to board the train and instead get a general ticket for performing the journey. This is the biggest difference between the WL e-ticket and WL i-ticket.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 12:23   #3
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Dear Rao,

There are good chances of getting this confirmed or RAC as the whole train is being operated in single quota which is applied wehn you book from ADI or BRC and also whether the ticket is upto PUNE or KOP.

##The fact that the ticket's status is RLWL makes it very clear that this has been booked under Remote Location Quota BUT NOT GENERAL QUOTA.

##Secondly, you have to find out the exact REMOTE LOCATION from which this Quota is operated because the Remote Location Quota and General Quota are NOT charted simultaneously, and hence considering RLWL passenger against the vacancies under General Quota that exist at the time of Charting does not arise.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 12:46   #4
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Dear Rao,

Please look at this:
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You Queried For
Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
6531 YPR GARIB NAWAJ 16-06-2008 AJMER JN YESVANTPUR JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 16- 6-2008 WL 117/WL 72 AVAILABLE- 0015
2 23- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0199 AVAILABLE- 0060
3 30- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0289 AVAILABLE- 0026
4 7- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0318 AVAILABLE- 0057
5 14- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0033 AVAILABLE- 0041
6 21- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0530 AVAILABLE- 0058
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Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
6531 YPR GARIB NAWAJ 16-06-2008 AHMEDABAD JN YESVANTPUR JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 16- 6-2008 WL 12/WL 12 WL 10/WL 8
2 23- 6-2008 WL 8/WL 5 WL 1/WL 1
3 30- 6-2008 WL 15/WL 2 WL 19/WL 3
4 7- 7-2008 WL 17/WL 17 WL 5/WL 5
5 14- 7-2008 WL 4/WL 4 AVAILABLE- 0004
6 21- 7-2008 WL 3/WL 3 WL 2/WL 2
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Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
6531 YPR GARIB NAWAJ 16-06-2008 AJMER JN PUNE JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 16- 6-2008 WL 117/WL 72 AVAILABLE- 0015
2 23- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0193 AVAILABLE- 0070
3 30- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0289 AVAILABLE- 0032
4 7- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0318 AVAILABLE- 0069
5 14- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0033 AVAILABLE- 0041
6 21- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0554 AVAILABLE- 0072
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Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
6531 YPR GARIB NAWAJ 16-06-2008 MAHESANA JN PUNE JN GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 16- 6-2008 WL 117/WL 72 AVAILABLE- 0015
2 23- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0193 AVAILABLE- 0070
3 30- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0289 AVAILABLE- 0032
4 7- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0318 AVAILABLE- 0069
5 14- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0033 AVAILABLE- 0041
6 21- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0554 AVAILABLE- 0072
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##Kindly note there is NO Pooled Quota in this train, but this has got GENERAL QUOTA and ONE REMOTE LOCATION QUOTA.

##Also observe the difference between MSH-PUNE Waiting List and ADI-PUNE Waiting List for 16th June,2008 by 6531!!!!
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Please note that (it was not explicit, though) my reply was relevant only to BRC-PUNE trip by 1049.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 13:49   #6
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Dear Rao,

##There is Pooled Quota in 1049 under which ADI-LNL and ST-KOP stretches are covered.Please have a look at this:
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Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
1049 KOLHAPUR EXPRES 15-06-2008 AHMEDABAD JN LONAVALA GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 15- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0015 WL 1/WL 1
2 22- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0160 AVAILABLE- 0011
3 29- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0190 AVAILABLE- 0016
4 6- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0151 WL 3/WL 2
5 13- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0171 AVAILABLE- 0018
6 20- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0132 AVAILABLE- 0017
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Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
1049 KOLHAPUR EXPRES 16-06-2008 SURAT C SHAHUMHARAJ T GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 16- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0015 WL 1/WL 1
2 23- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0160 AVAILABLE- 0007
3 30- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0190 AVAILABLE- 0016
4 7- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0151 WL 3/WL 2
5 14- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0171 AVAILABLE- 0010
6 21- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0132 AVAILABLE- 0017
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Old May 15th, 2008, 14:14   #7
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Dear VSP Sir,

You are right. I missed this Pooled Quota operating in those stretches.

But I have observed a difference in the pooled quota results. On 22 June, the 3 AC availability is difefrent between these two strecthes. Similarly on 13/14 july, also a difference in 3 AC availability. Could you please explain us on this?
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Old May 15th, 2008, 16:36   #8
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Dear Rao,
Dear Rao,

Now, please look at this:
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Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
1049 KOLHAPUR EXPRES 15-06-2008 AHMEDABAD JN SURAT GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - 3A Class -SL
1 15- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0004 AVAILABLE- 0044
2 22- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0012 AVAILABLE- 0171
3 29- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0016 AVAILABLE- 0195
4 6- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0016 AVAILABLE- 0189
5 13- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0018 AVAILABLE- 0174
6 20- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0017 AVAILABLE- 0140
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You Queried For
Train Number Train Name Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Source Station Destination Station Quota Code
1049 KOLHAPUR EXPRES 16-06-2008 PUNE JN C SHAHUMHARAJ T GENERAL
S.No. Date (DD-MM-YYYY) Class - SL Class -3A
1 16- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0154 AVAILABLE- 0013
2 23- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0191 AVAILABLE- 0009
3 30- 6-2008 AVAILABLE- 0196 AVAILABLE- 0018
4 7- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0197 AVAILABLE- 0018
5 14- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0197 AVAILABLE- 0010
6 21- 7-2008 AVAILABLE- 0190 AVAILABLE- 0018
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##Since this is a Pooled Quota, we exactly do not know between which two stations the berths have been booked by looking at the availability figures.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 13:28   #9
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Mr. Rao and Mr. Prasad Thanks for the reply...

But I'm still unable to make anything out of the messages...

Can you plese tell me whether I should go on with this tickets ? And what are the chances for both the tickets to get confirmed ?

Please reply soon...

Thanks. My journey details are ,

16/6/2008 Ahemedabad (ADI) to Pune (PUNE) [W/L 10, W/L 11]
8/6/2008 Baroda (BRC) to Pune (PUNE) [W/L 75]
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Old May 16th, 2008, 13:54   #10
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Dear rusfunn,

No need to worry. I am damn sure they will move to RAC.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 15:52   #11
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Originally Posted by rus_funn View Post
But I'm still unable to make anything out of the messages...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't have a clue what vsp27759's cut-and-pasted lists mean. Maybe he can explain them to us mere mortals?

(But I'm mightily impressed by the trouble that vsp27759 goes to).
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Old May 16th, 2008, 16:11   #12
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VSP is extremely helpful in a couple of railway forums, in those forums everyone understands the layout of the railway info, but it's different here, many (if not most) tourists will struggle to understand the info provided, a pity really, as VSP is probibly the best person in the whole world to ask about waitlists and quotas.
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VSP is extremely helpful in a couple of railway forums, in those forums everyone understands the layout of the railway info, but it's different here, many (if not most) tourists will struggle to understand the info provided, a pity really, as VSP is probibly the best person in the whole world to ask about waitlists and quotas.
I have no doubt that the information VSP provides is incredibly useful to those who understand it, and appreciate his willingness to go to such lengths time and time again to help out. But, as you say, I think that there are probably only about three people on this forum who will understand what those lists of numbers and the accompanying cryptic comments mean - and I say this as someone who thought he understood the waitlist system.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 16:35   #14
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Dear Mickey,

There is nothing special. Myself and Mr.TRN Rao, who is my co-Member in IRFCA,like Steven, were discussing about Pooled Quota Waiting List, Remote Location Waiting List and General Waiting List and how they operate.
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I have found out the Pooled Quota in Train No.1049 and Remote Location Quota in 6531.
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I remember having explained about these three waiting lists in another Thread long back.
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You are most welcome to raise any doubt about these Quotas/Waiting Lists and how to find out these quotas in a long distance train.
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In short distance trains there will be only one Quota, that is, General Quota and the resultant General Waiting Lit (GNWL).
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 17:58   #15
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Hi all,

Thanks for the reply.

I'm yet on waiting list for both these trains, can you ppl please tell me what to do ?

Status as of Now :

16/6/2008 Ahemedabad (ADI) to Pune (PUNE) [W/L 10, W/L 11]
8/6/2008 Baroda (BRC) to Pune (PUNE) [W/L 65]
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