Money Refunded even when I traveled in Train
Money Refunded even when I traveled in Train
Hi,
I just tried something with my irctc account few days ago.
I booked a ticket for Jammu Tawi from Punjab and it was a special train. I traveled in it but TTE never came to check our tickets (Total 5 passengers).
And so I thought of filling up a TDR for Passenger not Traveled.
And guess what, finally after 45 days, Half of the fare has been refunded to my account.
I just tried something with my irctc account few days ago.
I booked a ticket for Jammu Tawi from Punjab and it was a special train. I traveled in it but TTE never came to check our tickets (Total 5 passengers).
And so I thought of filling up a TDR for Passenger not Traveled.

And guess what, finally after 45 days, Half of the fare has been refunded to my account.
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Jun 5th, 2012, 13:56 Maha Guru Member
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as per IR & IRCTC rules, you could be prosecuted as this comes under the category of 'crime'.as per https://www.irctc.co.in/term.html, sec 4.6 states:
File Tdr - Only those PNRs whose Date of journey is less than 30 days will be listed and shall be eligible for applying TDR. Customers are requested to select PNR which are eligible for TDR filing. Please refer to File TDR Procedure "Strict legal action will be taken against the customer, who fraudulently or dishonestly makes any claim for refund, which he knows to be false and not applicable under any extant Indian Railways/IRCTC rules & provision for Refunds"
the same message is also flashed on the screen where you apply for TDR
Last edited by paramiyer; Jun 5th, 2012 at 14:53..
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You basically cheated and then not only feel good about getting money you should'nt have but also go on a forum to brag about it.
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Shubhi: What you did is, you basically found a bug in the system and it needs to be fixed.
It appears the TTE might be busy playing cards with his buddies.
In fact, Indian Railways should be rewarding you for finding this loophole. 
Now I am wondering what happens
when TTE checks the ticket and one still claims a refund.
How would the Indian Railways system and the refund policy knows whether the tickets were used or not?
What is the criteria?
Indian Railways is a huge network managed by few bonehead bureaucrats in New Delhi, and these dimwits need to wake up and fix the system.
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Shubhi: What you did is, you basically found a bug in the system and it needs to be fixed.
It appears the TTE might be busy playing cards with his buddies.
In fact, Indian Railways should be rewarding you for finding this loophole. Now I am wondering what happens
when TTE checks the ticket and one still claims a refund.
How would the Indian Railways system and the refund policy knows whether the tickets were used or not?
What is the criteria?
Indian Railways is a huge network managed by few bonehead bureaucrats in New Delhi, and these dimwits need to wake up and fix the system.
G o o d .. J o b .. S h u b h i. …
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You are right.IR is full of crap people who love to charge you extra money whenever they want to.
And this was the fault of TTE who never cared to check tickets.

And you won't get any refund if TTE has checked it on his list.
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Jun 5th, 2012, 18:02 Maha Guru Member
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Its not a bug in the system. The TTE didn't do his job, so IR has no way of refuting the claim. So IR paid in GOOD FAITH.
Normally the TTE's chart is refered to when settling refund claims to see if the passengers(s) travelled. In this case the TTE didn't do his job, so no way can anyone be sure who travelled or who didn't.
Normally the TTE's chart is refered to when settling refund claims to see if the passengers(s) travelled. In this case the TTE didn't do his job, so no way can anyone be sure who travelled or who didn't.
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What bug? Just because an employee missed out, does that entitle the person to commit fraud...what a load of crap!
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Your attitude saddens me! It is obvious what kind of actions you may take in future, and its repercussion on the society in its own small way. Sometimes, the joy that the Daybreak brings, is unparalleled!
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i have noted this many times on overnight trains which start quite late. the tte just walks around to see if any 'conflicts' need to be resolved, but if there are no complaints & all berths are occupied, he decided not the disturb the passengers. not sure if that is good judgment or poor work ethic! however, i believe in such a case the TTE would mark all as traveled per plan.
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i agree! and if this trick was to actually expose the lack of work culture, i think it has been done at a very great risk (unless authorised by some rly official or CAG).
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I normally sleep little on trains or anywhere else, so it really troubles me to have the TTE disturb me by switching the light on and mwaking everyone up. So if taking a late ttrain, i get my ticket checked and ticked by the TTE before the train leaves the platform. Once ticked on his chart, he won't disturb me.
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It ain't no crap man.
If the TTE died on his way to the train station,
it is the duty of someother TTE or train conductor to take care of the business.
Remember, Indian Railways is a business, and there should be safeguards in place.
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It ain't no crap man.
If the TTE died on his way to the train station,
it is the duty of someother TTE or train conductor to take care of the business.
Remember, Indian Railways is a business, and there should be safeguards in place.
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It is not about what the IR employee did (or did not), it is about what the OP did. This thought process that if there are no checks let us have a free run, is something that shows our lack of responsibility, and taking back the money for which you have availed the services, the fraudster nature. What the OP should have done is to write to IR mentioning the issue so that the employee could have been reprimanded, rather then swindling your own network, which would ultimately have effect on your very on travel comforts and security.
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the TTE din check your ticket and he's at fault. Would have appreciated if you filed a complaint but filling up a TDR and then being happy about the amount refunded..sad very sad. I PITY YOU and your thoughts Similar Threads
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