Missed a train.

#1 Nov 18th, 2011, 06:24
Join Date:
Dec 2010
Location:
Mumbai
Posts:
92
  • indorail is offline
#1
*How many hours a confirmed ticket has validity before and after the train arrives/departs.
*plz do provide a valid citation

The situation/reason for my query is:

I missed my train yesterday at NDLS and while returning back within 15mins after the train left,looking for other mode of transportation, TTE got hold of me on FOB and asked me to pay a fine for ticketless travelling i argued with him that i missed this train and showed my confirmed ticket and i told him i'm in hurry to reach my destination urgently, as i was in hurry i paid 150rs and left for my destination.
Can a TTE really charge a fine for this situation, i was dumbstruck with the whole incident
#2 Nov 18th, 2011, 06:39
Join Date:
Apr 2011
Location:
DELHI
Posts:
303
  • NEERAJ JAT JI is offline
#2
A ticket cannot be out of effect in 15 minutes. TTE cheated you and earned 150 rupees illegally.
Why did you not give him whole panelty? You should give panelty and receive panelty recept with time, date and reason. I can bet that TTE would not write exact reason.
You were in hurry and you were not in condition to waste time, for it you paid 150 rupees. Now forget this incident.
#3 Nov 18th, 2011, 08:54
Join Date:
Jun 2010
Location:
Hyderabad, india
Posts:
8,571
  • narendra.d is offline
#3
If I were you, I would go back and slap that TTE on that same FOB.
#4 Nov 18th, 2011, 11:33
Join Date:
Sep 2001
Location:
Missing, see bottom of post
Posts:
15,706
  • steven_ber is offline
#4
Quote:
Originally Posted by indorail View Post *How many hours a confirmed ticket has validity before and after the train arrives/departs.
*plz do provide a valid citation

The situation/reason for my query is:

I missed my train yesterday at NDLS and while returning back within 15mins after the train left,looking for other mode of transportation, TTE got hold of me on FOB and asked me to pay a fine for ticketless travelling i argued with him that i missed this train and showed my confirmed ticket and i told him i'm in hurry to reach my destination urgently, as i was in hurry i paid 150rs and left for my destination.
Can a TTE really charge a fine for this situation, i was dumbstruck with the whole incident
I don't understand.

Were you on a moving train?

Were you fined for being on the station without a ticket/platform ticket?

Can the TTE fine you for being on the station without a ticket?
.
SOS: Missing Person...

Please look at this thread, even if you are not in India.: Have you seen Jonathan Spollen?

He could be anywhere now: You might have met him, be able to help, or give information.
#5 Nov 18th, 2011, 11:50
Join Date:
Jan 2011
Location:
Delhi
Posts:
609
  • Matka is offline
#5
I presume FOB means foot over-bridge, i.e. he was in the station, not in a train. In which case, I don't think the officer is a TTE as such, but a station-based officer whose charge includes station security. Their uniforms are the same, I think - black coat over white shirt and trousers.

So from the totally confusing first post, I guess this officer cited the OP for no platform ticket. Which would make the officer in the wrong. It's not a crime to miss a train.
#6 Nov 18th, 2011, 11:53
Join Date:
Dec 2008
Location:
In the land of awesomeness
Posts:
17,473
  • aarosh is offline
#6
As far as I understand if you are in the station either you should have a train journey ticket or a platform ticket. If you have neither one of them you are eligible to be fined.

However I am not sure if the train journey ticket, that you have/had, is valid after the train departs or if you miss the train.
#7 Nov 18th, 2011, 13:06
Join Date:
Jun 2010
Location:
Hyderabad, india
Posts:
8,571
  • narendra.d is offline
#7
A train journey ticket of what ever class is valid not only for the station of boarding but all stations along the way till the destination as long as you are travelling on the same train. It should be valid for 3 hours after the train leaves if you miss the train. This is based on a platform ticket being valid for 3 hours.
#8 Nov 18th, 2011, 13:49
Learning... from others' experiences!
Join Date:
Sep 2011
Location:
India
Posts:
7,219
  • Prakaant is offline
#8
Further, the rule book says,
"c) If the ticket is presented for cancellation within four hours before the scheduled departure of the train and up to :
1. Three hours, when the ticket is for a destination station up to 200 KM.,
2. Six hours, when the ticket is for a destination station of more than 200 KM but up to 500 KM., and
3. Twelve hours , when the ticket is for a destination station of more than 500 KM.,
after the actual departure of the train, cancellation charges shall be 50 % of the fare subject to the min. flat rate mentioned in clause (a).
Provided that for night train leaving between 21:00 hours and 06:00 hours (actual departures), refunds shall be admissible at the station within the time limit specified above or within four hours after the opening of reservation office, whichever is later."

So, at the time of incident, the ticket of OP was valid; the OP was entitled to be on Station and the person concerned did cheat the OP and, if wished, OP may write to Grievance Cell with the mention of whole incident, location, Date and time of the incident.
The department might be aware of the person on duty and could take action!
Regards, PraKaant
#9 Nov 18th, 2011, 15:35
Join Date:
Dec 2010
Location:
Mumbai
Posts:
92
  • indorail is offline
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEERAJ JAT JI View Post A ticket cannot be out of effect in 15 minutes. TTE cheated you and earned 150 rupees illegally.
I was aware of that while paying him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matka View Post So from the totally confusing first post, I guess this officer cited the OP for no platform ticket. Which would make the officer in the wrong. It's not a crime to miss a train.
OP??Which part of the post confused u, isn't TTE synonymous to all type of ticket checkers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post I don't understand.

Were you on a moving train?
Nope as i said in my post i missed my train.

Quote:
Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post Were you fined for being on the station without a ticket/platform ticket?
not at the station but over the FOB (foot over bridge)

Quote:
Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post If I were you, I would go back and slap that TTE on that same FOB.
then u might have being imprisoned for that quoting the reason as disruption of duty of a govt. servant.
#10 Nov 18th, 2011, 15:51
Join Date:
Apr 2009
Location:
Almora
Posts:
4,459
Send a message via Yahoo to jituyadav
  • jituyadav is offline
#10
It was foolish act on your part, for whatever reasons, and we all go through such events sometimes. So just forget it as a bad incidence which was of your own making, but remember the lesson.
Sometimes, the joy that the Daybreak brings, is unparalleled!
#11 Nov 18th, 2011, 16:34
Join Date:
Jun 2010
Location:
Hyderabad, india
Posts:
8,571
  • narendra.d is offline
#11
If you knew the TTE is cheating you, why did you pay?
#12 Nov 18th, 2011, 17:09
Join Date:
Dec 2009
Location:
Bangalore (chennai for the time being)
Posts:
453
  • varad is offline
#12
Quote:
If I were you, I would go back and slap that TTE on that same FOB.
Slapping the TTE ( in this case i think it is an ordinary ticket collector not the TTE), is the worst possible thing to do, especially in a railway station.

To me, OP has done the right thing, though i would have bargained with him for an amount less than 50rs.
#13 Nov 18th, 2011, 17:33
Join Date:
Apr 2009
Location:
Almora
Posts:
4,459
Send a message via Yahoo to jituyadav
  • jituyadav is offline
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by varad View Post To me, OP has done the right thing, though i would have bargained with him for an amount less than 50rs.
Right thing ...and bargained for less than 50rs ... all this for not being wrong and done nothing illegal!!!
#14 Nov 18th, 2011, 18:34
Join Date:
Jun 2010
Location:
Hyderabad, india
Posts:
8,571
  • narendra.d is offline
#14
Ok. May not slap him. That was probably my anger coming thru. But why pay or negotiate when you have done nothing wrong.
#15 Nov 18th, 2011, 18:54
Learning... from others' experiences!
Join Date:
Sep 2011
Location:
India
Posts:
7,219
  • Prakaant is offline
#15
It seems no body liked my idea of filing a complaint (Ref Post #8 of this thread)!

Similar Threads

Title, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views Forum
can I travel in next one if missed first train deliberately? Nov 19th, 2011 14:57 13 2891 Indian Railways
Things not to be missed in Goa! Aug 10th, 2010 18:53 5 1878 Goa
My Packing List - have I missed anything? Too much? Oct 8th, 2009 16:50 2 2225 Packing Tips for India travel
I wonder how much i've missed Feb 8th, 2006 21:19 6 719 Chai and Chat
Now I know what I missed Feb 17th, 2004 13:07 10 772 Chai and Chat


Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Forum Rules»
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.2
© IndiaMike.com 2014
Page Load Success