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one of us recently had a leg injury. We suspect it's hairline fracture or some muscle injury (there's no swelling though). She is 50+. She refused to go see a doctor, because it is getting "better" day by day.

We were wondering if it's safe to start our trip to India in 2 days? We are specifically wondering about indian railway and railway stations, because we have booked wheelchair for all of the flights. The person is unable to bend her leg, but she does not have much problem walking, provided someone or something supports her. This trip is only to meet family, so it is not like one needs to be 100% physically fit in contrast to other trips on IM.

Tickets are non-refundable, so we could lose a couple grands, but we do not want to aggravate her injury either.
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So what's your question ?
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Originally Posted by delhiwala View Post So what's your question ?
are railway stations wheelchair friendly? can we book wheel chair in advance? should we cancel the trip altogether?
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Not all train stations are wheel chair friendly.

And officially all railway stations are supposed to have free wheelchairs available. Big stations like Delhi, Mumbai, Agra, Jaipur will certainly have it but I am not sure about the smaller stations.
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Originally Posted by delhiwala View Post Not all train stations are wheel chair friendly.

And officially all railway stations are supposed to have free wheelchairs available. Big stations like Delhi, Mumbai, Agra, Jaipur will certainly have it but I am not sure about the smaller stations.
can we book it in advance?
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No !

Once you are at the station, contact Station Master or Asst. Station Master.
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Originally Posted by delhiwala View Post Not all train stations are wheel chair friendly.
An understatement! I would say no railway station in India is wheelchair-friendly. (Howrah might be an exception but that is because it is a terminus with a "cabway".)

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And officially all railway stations are supposed to have free wheelchairs available. Big stations like Delhi, Mumbai, Agra, Jaipur will certainly have it but I am not sure about the smaller stations.
Luckily, you will always find people ready to help you up or down stairs. it might be a good idea to carry a collapsible wheelchair with you. Someone on IM may know if these can be rented somewhere. Otherwise bring one with you. If you need one airlines normally let you carry it free of charge.
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That would be a better idea or that 4-wheel pronged walker.
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My mom is a bit older 63 and she has trouble with her knees. India is horriable for disabled or elderly people, it was really tough for her getting on platforms and when we took domestic flights she had to climb all the stairs and climb in and out of buses. Now once we got on is was fine and she rested, but many of the forts and monements dont have wheelchair accessability and you have to walk long distinces between them (meaning usually the forts are large so we could not cover all of it). We didnt see much, we basically vitited with each other, because she slowed the rest of the group up. Its fine if your both fine with it, for me it was just being with my mom and it didnt really matter to her to see the sites. But its really up to you.
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I would say parts of stations are wheelchair friendly, from entry to the first track by first platform. From then on no. If you have to climb stairs (and these are not small by any means) to cross over to another platform and then go down the stairs again, you need to allow a lot of time. Getting on and off the train is not easy either. This lady will need a lot of help depending on the pain of the injury.
I have never seen a system in India, like that in Oz/ Sydney for instance where lifts go up and down and you go beneath the railway lines, along to your platform and get a lift up to it. Totally wheelchair friendly. Even boarding trains is easy - there are no steps up into the train. The vestibule of the train lines up with the platform itself, and a wheelchair is just wheeled straight onto it.
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Yes it's a long way to go in india.

Having said that, in the past 5 years or so , I observed the following improvements in the positive direction in primarily Bigger / Important [?!] Railway stations.

1) There is a Battery operated Golf Cart kind of Vehicle which services old and Disabled people . This is Free of charge and If you inform the TTR , he would arrange one and you can just get down from the train and this Vehicle will pick the person ,one or 2 of his accomplice also till the exit gate
2) There are new Rest rooms Constructed for "Disabled People" in major railway stations and it will be always locked . You need to request the station master / Authorities and they will unlock it for you
3)And in Many of the Railway station a PArallel ramp was built for wheelchair to travel upto the Coach.
4) Again , In Major Railway Stations, A Coolie will come with a Wheelchair , help people until the Exit gate. This involves a small fee / Tips.

Again, It depends on which places you are planning to visit. All OR some of the above Facilities I noticed in Mysore,Bangalore,Chennai,Madur ai,Hubli,Coimbatore [All Are South india] till now.

If you intend to visit smaller Railway stations,it's going to be a big pain especially if it's a electified line and climbing up and down the staircases is equally difficult for both aged and Disabled.

@Aishah,

Infact, Indian Railways tried "Escalators kind of" arrangement in Chennai Egmore/ Tambaram / Central [ Not Exactly sure on the station name but it's in chennai RS] 2 years back and the result, So many ladies / old people [Who does not know how to use it] fell down with all their luggages and even Several railway police were posted in the "Entry" & "Exit" Points to help people but still there were several "Falls" and I am not sure whether it's continuing now But initially there were negative reports / Photos published in Daily Magazines at that time.

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Not much out our way re these improvements, Velu! Old Delhi and New Delhi stations are terrible if you are not on the first platform - long walk to get to the one you want.
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Since everything is booked and she has been stubborn about not seeing a doctor, you should go. Obviously, this person does want to go.

There are doctors you can go to in India if it stops getting "better & better" and she needs an actual diagnosis. Many things you can't do much about anyway. Of course, it helps to know what the problem is.

I went to the doctor a couple of weeks before our last trip because I had terrible pain in my ankle--no swelling but it wasn't getting better. It was a hairline fracture and they just told me to take pain meds and not push it, ice it and keep it elevated. Nothing else to do for it, though they gave me an ankle bandage which helped a bit. It took another month to be able to walk properly and it didn't ruin my trip but it slowed me down for the first 2 weeks of my month away.

I have seen a product (I hope to never need) that might be very helpful. It's a collapsable traveling wheelchair. They are expensive (over $100 up to many hundreds) but much cheaper than losing all your money if she doesn't go. Here is a website with a selection. Some are very, very lightweight. http://www.solutions-for-seniors.inf...eelchairs.html
http://www.1800wheelchair.com/catego...rt-wheelchairs

They would probably do an overnight shipment since you are leaving in 2 days.

Just an idea.

You also need a Plan B like hiring a car for her if she cannot do trains. The platforms sometimes require huge amounts of walking and many steps.
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We suspect it's hairline fracture or some muscle injury (there's no swelling though).
I would insist on a xray and take, not a wheelchair, but crutches.

If it is a sprain/muscle rupture or a hairline fracture, a crutch- and a crepe bandage- will serve almost as well, and be much more easy to manage everywhere. India is not wheelchair friendly at all, collapsible or not.

A wheelchair may be overkill anyway if it is a sprain- or even a hairline fracture. Seeing a doctor (dunno if she can be persuaded) will go a long way in deciding what you need in India.

By the way, some doctors will put the leg in a cast even if it is a hairline fracture- depends where exactly it is.
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I had to take a train trip half-way across Canada - with a Grade II Groin Strain. It didn't hurt at all to walk with, but the back & forth roll of the train caused alot of unexpected pain - on every carriage shift. Don't think that this has much to do with your friends injury - but with the different posture, positioning & forces exerted by a choo-choo - it's one of those things that you'll never know until you've been there done that.
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