Knowing the Indian Train

beach · Dec 1st, 2003, 19:21

EDITOR'S NOTE: This post has been promoted to the Articles section. You can read the article in its entirety here:

Getting to know the India Railways and the Indian Train

Alan D · Dec 1st, 2003, 19:52

beach

Excellent and informative post on Indian Railways. It's all true - the swapping of berths, magazines doing the rounds and the questions! Also there are answers to some queries posted on this forum recently about ticket reservation.

timmy · Dec 2nd, 2003, 14:33

Thnaks beach... yet more tips make it into my LP. It's slowly being stuffed full of post-it notes and printouts

beach · Dec 2nd, 2003, 20:36

Too few votes with so many readers !! ??

maree · Dec 3rd, 2003, 05:53

Quote:

Salute to the Indian Railways for the amazing service they do to the passengers!!

And salute to you, beach, for all that info. Gotta love those trains.

timmy · Dec 3rd, 2003, 08:32

Whoops, didn't even notice the poll at the top (...or forgot about it by the time I'd read the whole post!)

Voted.

maree · Dec 3rd, 2003, 09:10

I think it means one person has chosen 2 options.

bijapuri · Dec 3rd, 2003, 12:40

it doesn't have MY favorite coach- 1nonAC
but then, few trains do anymore

beach · Dec 5th, 2003, 14:51

This is a supplementary to my first JUMBO write-up Knowing the Indian Train . I did a small ‘research work’ with the massive rail fare data and made a chart like this one! I always wondered why the railways haven’t made something like this or do they already have one? The graphs can help you to plan your travel budget visually by looking at the cost and compare among various classes. All the standard costs like reservation fees, supplementary charges, Safety fee etc are shown in the chart, which needs to be added to your basic fare as per the schedule.

The only catch is you need to know the approximate distance between the places you are planning. Use a map (?)

Don’t ask me what are all these titles? I’ll land up in explaining a lot of political recipes in India! All I can say is the ‘Rich’ Indian travel by 1A and the ‘Poor’ by the Sleeper. So the Sleeper is highly subsidized at the cost of 1A. That is what is Socialism is all about!

beach · Dec 5th, 2003, 14:54

Add this (res. fee+ Supp. charge+ safety charge) to the basic fare

beach · Dec 16th, 2003, 12:54

Indian Railways has flagged off a 12-coach exhibition train yesterday. The marigold-decorated train has been a joint project of the Science & Technology and Railway ministry. This exhibition on wheels will travel criss -cross the country as per the itinerary and schedule published.

A newspaper clipping of the train published in 'The Hindu'

A superb Indian railways map is put at the site. Click on "CLICK TO VIEW THE RAILWAY MAP" at the site.
A lot of pictures of the 'under construction train' also is put at the railway site.

PS: ''Jai Jawan Jai Kisan'' printed on the train belly means Hats off to the Soldier and hats off to the farmer, a legendry Indian national slogan

thestens · Dec 16th, 2003, 17:50

A magnificent resource, Beach - congratulations! Just one point to add - take care when paying by credit card, if you may want to cancel. We did this and were told we could only do it either at the station where we bought the ticket (long passed) or in Mumbai! Went to the office in Mumbai on a Saturday - it was closed and we flew home that night! We filled in forms which stated that the money would be refunded onto our credit acrd, but it wasn't. So we lost about £30.

Colin · Dec 17th, 2003, 00:57

Using $US is very convenient for Americans on this site but the to the rest of us its a foreign currency! I find myself looking up the US-Rs rate, so I can get some idea of the costs in a currency I understand. Stick to Rupees, we all understand them...

Congratulations beach on your graphics, it must have taken you ages to generate the graph, submit it to Indian Railways, they might engage you in a professional capacity!!

beach · Dec 18th, 2003, 11:54

EDITOR'S NOTE: This post has been promoted to the Articles section. You can read the article in its entirety here:

Getting to know the India Railways and the Indian Train

Added later on:
The latest railway budget (2004) abolished the TDR regime. Even the cancellations of unused reserved tickets after the travel date can me done at the regular reservation/cancellation counters. If my understanding is right you can claim the refund 3 hours after the train has reached your designated arrival station.

mdchachi · Jan 14th, 2004, 22:36

Thank you for your explanations. Very useful indeed. Sure would be nice if indianrail.gov.in thought to include some of this stuff on their site. Anyway, I wonder if you happen to know what "REGRET" means in terms of availability? For example, I see trains labelled "REGRET/WL1" or "REGRET/WL3".

View Poll Results: Which class you would prefer in Indian train?
Second Class (Unreserved)	35	4.37%
Sleeper Class	247	30.84%
AC 3-Tier sleeper	147	18.35%
AC 2-Tier sleeper	270	33.71%
AC First Class	153	19.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 801. You may not vote on this poll

Dec 1st, 2003, 19:21	#1
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	Knowing the Indian Train EDITOR'S NOTE: This post has been promoted to the Articles section. You can read the article in its entirety here: Getting to know the India Railways and the Indian Train Last edited by nadreg : Mar 28th, 2008 at 05:19.

Dec 1st, 2003, 19:52	#2
Alan D Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Southampton UK Posts: 1,866	beach Excellent and informative post on Indian Railways. It's all true - the swapping of berths, magazines doing the rounds and the questions! Also there are answers to some queries posted on this forum recently about ticket reservation. __________________ What a long strange trip it's been!

Dec 2nd, 2003, 14:33	#3
timmy Back in Australia Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 375	Thnaks beach... yet more tips make it into my LP. It's slowly being stuffed full of post-it notes and printouts __________________ Read my India Travel Blog from late 2004, or look at my Photo Gallery from my last two trips.

Dec 2nd, 2003, 20:36	#4
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	Too few votes with so many readers !! ?? Too few votes with so many readers !! ??

Dec 3rd, 2003, 08:32	#6
timmy Back in Australia Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 375	Whoops, didn't even notice the poll at the top (...or forgot about it by the time I'd read the whole post!) Voted.

Dec 3rd, 2003, 09:10	#7
maree Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Zealander in Bangkok Posts: 850	I think it means one person has chosen 2 options.

Dec 3rd, 2003, 12:40	#8
bijapuri laid traps for troubadours Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Priustan Posts: 2,607	it doesn't have MY favorite coach- 1nonAC but then, few trains do anymore __________________ Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential. Barack Obama lookit me!!!: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bijapuri/ Utube fuzzy logic: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=bijapuri&p =r

Dec 5th, 2003, 14:51	#9
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	Fare Chart This is a supplementary to my first JUMBO write-up Knowing the Indian Train . I did a small ‘research work’ with the massive rail fare data and made a chart like this one! I always wondered why the railways haven’t made something like this or do they already have one? The graphs can help you to plan your travel budget visually by looking at the cost and compare among various classes. All the standard costs like reservation fees, supplementary charges, Safety fee etc are shown in the chart, which needs to be added to your basic fare as per the schedule. The only catch is you need to know the approximate distance between the places you are planning. Use a map (?) Don’t ask me what are all these titles? I’ll land up in explaining a lot of political recipes in India! All I can say is the ‘Rich’ Indian travel by 1A and the ‘Poor’ by the Sleeper. So the Sleeper is highly subsidized at the cost of 1A. That is what is Socialism is all about! Attached Thumbnails

Dec 5th, 2003, 14:54	#10
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	reservation fee schedule Add this (res. fee+ Supp. charge+ safety charge) to the basic fare Attached Thumbnails Last edited by beach : Dec 5th, 2003 at 18:06.

Dec 16th, 2003, 12:54	#11
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	VIGYAN RAIL Indian Railways has flagged off a 12-coach exhibition train yesterday. The marigold-decorated train has been a joint project of the Science & Technology and Railway ministry. This exhibition on wheels will travel criss -cross the country as per the itinerary and schedule published. A newspaper clipping of the train published in 'The Hindu' A superb Indian railways map is put at the site. Click on "CLICK TO VIEW THE RAILWAY MAP" at the site. A lot of pictures of the 'under construction train' also is put at the railway site. PS: ''Jai Jawan Jai Kisan'' printed on the train belly means Hats off to the Soldier and hats off to the farmer, a legendry Indian national slogan

Dec 16th, 2003, 17:50	#12
thestens Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 44	A magnificent resource, Beach - congratulations! Just one point to add - take care when paying by credit card, if you may want to cancel. We did this and were told we could only do it either at the station where we bought the ticket (long passed) or in Mumbai! Went to the office in Mumbai on a Saturday - it was closed and we flew home that night! We filled in forms which stated that the money would be refunded onto our credit acrd, but it wasn't. So we lost about £30.

Dec 17th, 2003, 00:57	#13
Colin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pai, Mae Hong Son, Thailand Posts: 208	Using $US is very convenient for Americans on this site but the to the rest of us its a foreign currency! I find myself looking up the US-Rs rate, so I can get some idea of the costs in a currency I understand. Stick to Rupees, we all understand them... Congratulations beach on your graphics, it must have taken you ages to generate the graph, submit it to Indian Railways, they might engage you in a professional capacity!!

Dec 18th, 2003, 11:54	#14
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,233	EDITOR'S NOTE: This post has been promoted to the Articles section. You can read the article in its entirety here: Getting to know the India Railways and the Indian Train Added later on: The latest railway budget (2004) abolished the TDR regime. Even the cancellations of unused reserved tickets after the travel date can me done at the regular reservation/cancellation counters. If my understanding is right you can claim the refund 3 hours after the train has reached your designated arrival station. Last edited by nadreg : Mar 28th, 2008 at 05:20.

Jan 14th, 2004, 22:36	#15
mdchachi newbie-wallah Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MI - USA Posts: 150	Thank you for your explanations. Very useful indeed. Sure would be nice if indianrail.gov.in thought to include some of this stuff on their site. Anyway, I wonder if you happen to know what "REGRET" means in terms of availability? For example, I see trains labelled "REGRET/WL1" or "REGRET/WL3".

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