IRCTC WL etickets - bad business practices !

#31 Nov 16th, 2008, 21:37
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Update on my wl-isted eticket cancellation

Wrote to irctc to get the refund for a waitlisted (after chart preparation) - that was 4 months ago

The status as of today

TDR Status : Admin Approved
Reference No : *******
TDR Filing Date : **-Jul-2008
Refund Status : Refund under Process
Refund Date : Not Available
Refund Amount : Rs.0.00

In short I'm still waiting for the money - not sure who all needs to approve (after admin) before i finally get back my money - Laloo ?
#32 Nov 17th, 2008, 10:43
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Christine, Since you have 2 confirmed tickets on 2A, it is better to cancel now so that u dont lose money. There is not too much of a comfort difference between 1A & 2A. You pay the extra amount for a door
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Dear Yesthom,

##ADMN cannot do the job of FINANCE/ACCOUNTS.:-)

##Thanks for sharing your experience of Cancelling E-Ticket After Chart Prepration.

##For this precise, I keep 'yelling'.Please try to avoid -

(i) E-Ticket Cancellation After Chart Preparation;
(ii)E-Tickets with W/L Status;

because both have got lot of nuisance value!!!
#34 Nov 17th, 2008, 16:33
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Originally Posted by tsk1979 View Post I once bought an e-ticket, confirmed. The train got delayed by 8 hours,
Do the trains often get delayed? I wanted to return from Hardiwar to Delhi in the evening and then go to the airport a couple of hours later for a flight back to Europe. If the train was delayed 8 hours we would miss our flight. Maybe it would be better to get back to Delhi a day earlier?
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Originally Posted by Mell View Post Do the trains often get delayed? I wanted to return from Hardiwar to Delhi in the evening and then go to the airport a couple of hours later for a flight back to Europe. If the train was delayed 8 hours we would miss our flight. Maybe it would be better to get back to Delhi a day earlier?
Delays of 30 minutes to an hour are common, however long delays are not very common.
winter season can lead to 12-15 hour delays due to heavy fog, when express trains have to do the entire night at speeds of max 40-50kmph instead of the 110kmph.
Next culprit is monsoons, which can cause delays if there is track damage.
Last but not the least, there are certain festive moments when everybody decides to sleep on the tracks. Then you have one day delays and sometimes canceled trains. These festive moments are not predictable, and can get started due to somebody sneezing at an in-auspicious hour, or somebody abusing somebody else. Newspapers are a good source of information, but make sure you buy today's newspaper. Many stations sell a year old newspaper with dates rubbed out. Its more profitable that way since old newspaper is 4rs/kg(20ps), and brand new costs 3-5rs depending upon the edition.


I know I have made a long winded tale, but if catching flight is a primary concern I advise 8 hour gap atleast between train landing and flight taking off. If its winter fog season, make it 10 hours.
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#36 Nov 17th, 2008, 17:19
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Thanks Tsk I think we will go back to Delhi a day early. That would be at least easier on my nerves. And we may just get to spend as long as we were going to in the first place in Hardiwar if there is a long train delay.
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Thanks, dipydoo.

VSP, what do you mean by a lot of nuisance to cancel e-tickets with W/L status?

Christine
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Dear Belgian Biker,

VSP, what do you mean by a lot of nuisance to cancel e-tickets with W/L status?

##Good question.

##In the past, the IRCTC was NOT permitting E-Tickets once the Status moved into Waiting List. But due to persistent demands from the passengers, they have started issuing E-Tickets with W/L Status on one condition that they would get automatically cancelled.

##So, if your E-Ticket with W/L Status do not gets confirmed during Charting, it would get automatically cancelled and you cannot enter the train.

##Whereas if you have a normal ticket (OR) I-Ticket with W/L Status and if it does not gets confirmed, atleast you will have the privilege of entering the train (**unofficially) and Run After the Conductor (RAC), till he gives you a Berth.
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Dear Belgian,

Please note Mr.Yesthom did not get his amount even after Four Months, because he had cancelled his E-Ticket after Charting!!!
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Hi VSP,

Thanks for the clarification. But my intention is to cancel before chart preparation, long before even. I think I will cancel more than 24 hours before train departure, to get a 100 % refund. Did you mean a nuisance after chart preparation? Or always a nuisance?

Do you think there is any use in waiting? The WL1 doesn't move at all. There are only 4 available berths for 1A on this train. Do you know why there are only 4 berths in 1A? So, this means 1 compartment in this coach is 1A and the other compartments in this same coach are 2A, or what? I don't understand.

Christine
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Dear Belgian,

I meant it is nuisance after Chart Preparation!!!!

I always recommend cancellation of Tickets (E-Ticket)/
I-Ticket only before Chart Preparation, since this practice had got two inherent advantages:

1. The Passenger will forego at the most 25%, and also he will get back this amount instantly (credit or cash, as the case may be).
2. The Berth thus got vacated could absorb one RAC Passenger and also one WL Passenger.
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Hi VSP,

Thank you very much. I'll certainly cancel before chart preparation.

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2. The Berth thus got vacated could absorb one RAC Passenger and also one WL Passenger.
I don't understand this though.
Is there RAC in 1A class? And what do you mean that the berth got vacated? Do you mean in the case I cancel my 1 CNF and 1 WL?

Do you know why there are only 4 available berths in 1A on this train (and this is not the quota for one specific station, this is the quota from departing till end station)?

Do you think we still have a chance to get CNF before chart preparation? The train is GWL UDZ Sup Exp on 25 Nov (see my post a lot higher up with details). Or no use in waiting?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Christine
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Dear Belgian Biker,

I don't understand this though.
Is there RAC in 1A class?


##There is no RAC in IAC.

And what do you mean that the berth got vacated?

##If a Passenger either with Confirmed Status before Chart Preparation, the first passenger with RAC Status moves into Confirmed Status AND the first passenger with WL Status would move into RAC.

##This benefit will NOT percolate down, if you cancel your confirmed ticket after Chart Preparation.

Do you mean in the case I cancel my 1 CNF and 1 WL?

Ofcourse,yes. If you cancel your IA Ticket with Confirmed Status and also your ticket wih WL Status BEFORE CHART PREPARATION, then the first passenger in the Waiting List will move into Confirmed Status and the second passenger will move into WL.1 position.
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Dear Belgian Biker,

Do you know why there are only 4 available berths in 1A on this train

##Perhaps, this must be HA1 Coach and if it is so, there will be only 10 Berths, that is, Two Cabins and One Coupe.

##It is a common phenomena that, wherever there is HA1 Coach, NOT all the 10 Berths are offered under General Quota.

Do you think we still have a chance to get CNF before chart preparation

##Because, your's is GNWL.1, I still think you have a better chance.

Or no use in waiting?

##Now that you have a back-up Plan, perhaps, you can think of waiting.
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