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Originally Posted by brishti View Post correct - no toilet.
but i would strongly advice you against any filming without permission if equipment-on/off-the-tracks is involved.

dont take this lightly - that'd be gross stupidity.
bombay train attacks... 2002-2003, 2007

so be very careful of what you are planning - and follow proper procedure.



offtopic - 1955... an amazing train sequence



:brishti


I know this sequence, it's from Apu trilogy movie. I love this film. This is a real India movie, man, this reminds me of lots
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I would just talk to a railway employee or station master of a small railway station, saying you want to take a picture/video. Talk to them not making it a big deal. Just the impression that its out of interest in train or for fun.

You can do that at small stations where train frequency is not much. You can do that on meter gauge station with no electric lines. It will be safer too.
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Originally Posted by brishti View Post dont know how imperative filming the bottom of the train is to your storyboard hello mumbai...
but just for starters... try and film a bombay local train in full capacity approaching and another shot of it zip by - its an amazing visual.
It's important. Small details is important.
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thanks for that pather panchali link brishti

I saw the film a good few years ago and that scene stuck in my mind, really enjoyed seing it again.
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Originally Posted by Hello Mumbai View Post Just remind me of something, Mumbai local train have no toilet right? If so I could use some of the Mumbai local train too capture the scene.

I think it have no toilet. Maybe I am wrong?
I just looked on a couple of stock footage sites. There are quite a few of trains in India, and you could easily cut them to your needs. The price is a lot cheaper than flying to India, or paying local permit people.
Just a thought.
If you think the clips look the same as everyone else's, get into Final Cut Pro, and change the speed and colour, it will look completely different.
It's just going to save you a lot of work.

Oh, and SUCH is with an H, not a K, like SUCK.
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I want to stress the importance of taking Brishti's warnings seriously.

Police here carry guns, and a suspected terrorist could well be a dead man without any questions having been asked first.
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Originally Posted by Hello Mumbai View Post I never use Indian toilet on India train but I believe that have hole right through the floor to rail?
as no one has mentioned this on this thread, let me clarify a point. toilets on Indian rail coaches don't have a hole 'right through the floor to rail' the excrement and urine is conveyed through a pipe that empties out at the outer side of the rails... that is why there is a notice in the loos not to use them while the train is at a station. there was a proposal to implement an alternative design that would be 'emptied' out at a station; however, this has not been implemented so far.
http://irsme.nic.in/files/spec_chem_toilet.pdf

i have walked on many railway lines in India - the only crap you will find is in urban areas, where the people living in shanty towns defecate on the lines... or at railway stations where passengers obviously don't pay heed to the aforementioned notice.

the 'distribution' of the excrement may be quite effectual at the 60 KPH speed of our trains... and the Shatabdi/Rajdhanis may have even higher dispersal abilities owing to their increased speed.

do correct me if i am wrong... but i noticed this pipe outlet to the loos when i was at stations, i too thought the stuff just 'dropped' straight down on the middle of the rails - it is not so, as a matter of fact, the alignment of the toilet is such that it would not drop - in the middle of the tracks, but rather on the rails - something unacceptable from a safety point.
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Originally Posted by adityabee View Post the alignment of the toilet is such that it would not drop - in the middle of the tracks, but rather on the rails - something unacceptable from a safety point.
Crikey, that would be a problem; we have enough problems with LEAVES* on the line!

*Yes it's true, though it sounds silly; PM me if you're geeky enough to want to know details.
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LOL. It sounds idiotic, and I do find it idiotic too, yes; but the Dutch railway system suffers from fallen leaves each autumn yes.

(I think it makes the wheels lose their grip. I'd also never heard of it before the railways were privatized, about a decade or two ago. Makes one wonder. Our privatized railway company hasn't exactly been performing in optima forma in any case.)
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When I use a train toilet, I look down the hole straight to the ground.

Even British trains have notices saying not to use the toilet in the stations. People do not always obey rules!

Yes... leaves where a problem way back, even when there were steam locomotives. One used to hear the noise they made as the wheels slipped, trying to get a grip.
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It used to be very much against regulations to take pictures of bridges & train stations, etc. I was sternly admonished by an official about this who then proceed to take a picture of me in the pose with my camera..
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Originally Posted by machadinha View Post I think it makes the wheels lose their grip. I'd also never heard of it before the railways were privatized, about a decade or two ago.
Not only does it makes the rails slippery, the leaf slime can also form a non-conductive layer on the track. Modern train location tracking is partly carried out by using a safety backup system which locates a train by picking up the wheels on the track.
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Originally Posted by Hello Mumbai View Post We have special 'clamp' ? that can be place / attached to one of the rail log and on videocamera.


You've right, there is suck possibility. That driver stop the train and cause delay. I want take that risk. I need that scene of Indian train that pass over. Camera is black colored and not bigger than an normal hand and with luck driver won't see anything 'strange on rail' and if the train coming fast enough then it is less risk that driver see anything. I want take that risk.
If MY train is delayed because someone has put a camera on the rails to film the tummy of a train I would think very very bad things of that person... I hope someone with very very bad diarrhea will go and discharge exactly in THAT moment passing onto your precious camera! just a change of perspective about the risks you want to take....
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Originally Posted by Hello Mumbai View Post I need a video clip/material of an Indian train that coming fast and pass over the camera, and one clip that train coming from behind and pass over.

better watch the indian block buster Hindi movie 'GADDAR' of sunny deol.the last scene of train and chase.it will save you lot of trouble. and if you still want to shoot behind (below) the train, this scene will give you idea of things to expect and skills required.
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Originally Posted by Hello Mumbai View Post It's same here, but not allowed near any station.
I believe you have not travelled in Indian trains - in all toilets it is written in bold letters "Do not use toilet in Stations".

I dont know from where you want to take the photographs. Keep your camera in the track below in the stations and take a video ? then you wont have a fast moving train, but a train slowly chugging out of platform !
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