Hampi-Goa-Mangalore train idea.

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I'm seriously thinking about suggesting a new train for the Konkan Railways to run in the tourist season.

A slow train between Hospet and Kankanadi (Mangalore), departing Hospet at about 22:30, getting to Madgaon at 08:00, then calling at most stations down to Kankanadi arriving at about 13:00.

It could then return, departing Kankanadi at about 15:00, getting to Madgaon at about 20:00, departing at 21:00 and then onto Hospet arriving at about 06:30

The train could be partly subsidised by the Goan and Karnatakan tourist boards.

It has always amazed me that Goa gets so many tourists, yet the railways only have very poorly timed trains to entice tourists to look at other attractions.

The Mumbai - Goa route has many well-timed trains, but try going East or South from Goa and things change.

The trains to/from Hospet are very poorly timed, and although there are morning trains to go South from Goa, they are long distance trains that can easily be late and it can be almost imposable to get short-distance bookings for them.

The Mangalore Jan Shatabdi was introduced, and shockingly, departed Goa in the afternoon, just like the Verna - Mangalore passenger train, so, not surprisingly, the Jan Shatabdi runs almost empty to Mangalore, It doesn't run during the monsoon and it still hasn't been started again because it loses money.

Tourist want trains to depart Goa in the morning and return in the evening if they are to do day trips, or even if they want to spend a couple of days away from Goa.

I recently had to take the Verna-Mangalore Passenger train to get from Goa to Murudeshwar, I got to Murudeshwar at about 17:30, the return train departed at 10:34 in the morning, so we had to stay 2 nights in a hotel just to get a full day in Murudeshwar (having, like most tourists, already paid for a hotel in Goa for those days).

Again, wouldn't more tourists visit Hampi if they didn't lose 2 days to train travel, an overnight train would surely be better, and youd still get to view the Dudhsagar waterfalls on the return journey.

I know there are overnight buses connecting Goa with Hampi, but Id guess that these just dont appeal to many tourists.

I spoke to 2 different tour guides in Goa about the idea, they both said the proposed train would offer them more flexibility and make their packages more attractive.

Good Idea?
Bad idea?

I do need more info though, for example: -

Set freight train timetables (to find slots for the train).

Stabling facilities close to Hospet (is Gadag the closest? Can the meter gauge facilities at Gadag be converted to take broad gauge?)

Approximate costs for purchasing and running a train?

I would only consider putting the idea forward if I had all the details.
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I think you'll find becuase it's single travk most of the way fitting in another train may be difficult Steven!!
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Originally Posted by cyberhippie I think you'll find becuase it's single travk most of the way fitting in another train may be difficult Steven!!
I know, it's never easy, thats why I need the freight train times.

I done a quick check for the Goa-Kankanadi section, and it can easily be fitted in, but there could be set times for freight trains that I'm not aware of.

The Goa - Londa section is easy, very few trains use this section, the Londa - Hospet section is a bit busier.

There is a lot of freight trafic in and around the Goa area, mainly Iron ore (sp?), and the freight trains run at a profit for the Konkan railways, much more so than passenger trains.

Never easy.
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I was planning to travel from Goa to Hyderabad but the only direct train takes a long long time. The schedules are confusing, as they combine 2 trains. The train is named Vijaywada Express.
And to change trains midway, one can't figure out which station.. Hospet? Bellary?? Guntukal??
And to cap it all, the destination station is named Kacheguda!
Not Secunderabad or Hyderabad Deccan or Begumpet...
It's all very muddled.
Time for South Central railway to get its act together and start Tourist Special Trains from Goa to all major destinations.
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Originally Posted by SANJAY_DEL I was planning to travel from Goa to Hyderabad but the only direct train takes a long long time. The schedules are confusing, as they combine 2 trains. The train is named Vijaywada Express.
And to change trains midway, one can't figure out which station.. Hospet? Bellary?? Guntukal??
And to cap it all, the destination station is named Kacheguda!
Not Secunderabad or Hyderabad Deccan or Begumpet...
It's all very muddled.
Time for South Central railway to get its act together and start Tourist Special Trains from Goa to all major destinations.
A few coaches from the Vijaywada Express are detached at Guntakal and attached to another train to take you to Kacheguda (a few Kms south of Hyderabad station), you'll be sleeping whilst the carriages are moved and shouldn't notica a thing, there is no need to change trains.

HOWEVER.....All that is about to change, The Vijaywada Express will soon be running all the way to Howrah (Calcutta) and the train times will be changed, I've not seen any mention of the train splitting and part of it going to Kacheguda, but I'd guess the railways have a plan, they just don't want to share it with us.
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Should I cancel my day long visit to Hyderabad?
It was just meant to break the monotony of the long train ride from Goa to Delhi.
Any other alternative day-trip/sight-seeing in some other city that you could suggest, please..
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Originally Posted by SANJAY_DEL Should I cancel my day long visit to Hyderabad?
It was just meant to break the monotony of the long train ride from Goa to Delhi.
Any other alternative day-trip/sight-seeing in some other city that you could suggest, please..
I hear Ahmednagar is a great place to visit.

Train 2779 departs Madgaon daily at 15:10 and gets to Ahmednagar at 07:13 (2A, 3A, SL.)

Then from Ahmednagar you can either get a train to Delhi or get a bus 100 Kms to Aurangebad and go to Ellora or Ajanta caves, then onto Jalgaon (or Bhusaval) for a train to Delhi.

Train 2627 departs Ahmednagar daily at 12:23 and gets to Nizamuddin at 11:30, then New Delhi at 11:55. (2A, 3A, SL.)

Train 2779 departs Ahmednagar daily at 07:15 and gets to Nizamuddin at 06:35. (2A, 3A, SL.)

If you booked the Goa - Ahmednagar - Delhi ticket as a 'Break Of Journey' ticket (allowing up to 4 days in Ahmednagar) you would save about a third of the cost of booking two seperate tickets.

You will find all the details about 'Break Of Journey' tickets and how to book them in the following 2 threads.


Train fares thread.

Understanding Reservation Forms.
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Ah! Its been long since I bought a break journey tic. Wud it mean hours to spend in back-breaking queues or booking via touts?
Or is there an option on irctc?

Thanks for all the specific, useful info that u've built quite a name on !!
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No online option.

Pick a not-so-busy time for the ticket office and join the queue.

Alternatively, get a reservation form, complete it correctly (checking availability online) and 'Send the boy'.

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