First-AC, 2 tier and 3 tier experience

#31 Aug 28th, 2009, 21:17
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Are there any showers on 1 AC?
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Sleeper class is surely more fun in many ways that AC --- though I have to agree with the poster who said they never had any trouble having a conversation in an AC class. I've had some great interactions with people --- usually in 2 AC.

My main reason for preferring 2AC: I can actually get a decent night's sleep! It's more comfortable, it is not as dirty, it is less crowded and chaotic. When I want to arrive at my destination in reasonably good shape... that's my choice.
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Originally Posted by johntrovolta View Post So, are there any chances of having only 2 berths seperate in 2AC.?
Look up steven's layout diagram of the 1A/2A carriage; search for "2A layout". Berths 19 & 20 are in a 2-berth "compartment".

AFAIK, there is no way to reserve these berths, or even ask for them.
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Nigelg

I have read somewhere on IM that in fact this is possible -

when one does an on-line reservation, if the two people have the same last name and check a box (something like keep together or similar in meaning), it is possible to get a 2-person "couple" - one berth is lower and the other is upper. Rather cozy and in fact nice for a couple going on their honeymoon (as a person wrote in a different thread on IM!!).

Indracal

I went back and read all the posts in this thread and can say that I have seen 2-person couple in 2AC.

Cheers

Nattusbs

PS: I was thinking of doing this to take my GS Dog and calling him Mrs Nattu "MyLastName inserted here" - I would then explain to the TTE that I paid for 2 berths in 2AC
#35 Aug 31st, 2009, 02:10
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Indian Railways Coach Layout diagram by Steven_ber

Looks like 43/44 seats on 2AC could work for the person requiring more privacy (it's curtains only ).

About possibility of booking those seat pairs, you need to be plain lucky.

By the system logic, IR will try to place all the persons booked in one ticket (2 persons in this case) consecutively, and try to honour their berth preferences as well, subject to availability in that particular class for that particular quota.

E.g. I can only say that I want to book 2AC for myself and my wife and want one upper and one lower. Further restriction that I can impose are any one of the following:

- book only if at least 1 lower berth is allocated
- book only if at least 2 lower berth is allocated
- book only if all the berths are in the same coach

Note that all these 3 options are mutually exclusive.

So, you can't really have those specific seats for you unless you are lucky!

P.S. I understand there is a ladies quota also, unsure how it is used/distributed. Anyway, the honeymooners would be out of this I guess
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I went back and read all the posts in this thread and can say that I have seen 2-person couple in 2AC.
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Originally Posted by nigelg View Post Look up steven's layout diagram of the 1A/2A carriage; search for "2A layout". Berths 19 & 20 are in a 2-berth "compartment".
Look at the 3rd diagram down (First Class AC/2-tier AC combination) in the following post, berths 19 & 20, a curtain almost maked it a coupe.

Carriage layout diagrams, PLEASE give feedback.
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Cool No size difference in seats

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Originally Posted by steven_ber View Post The biggest difference between 3A and Sleeper is that there are 8 sections (1 section = the 'inside' berths and the side berths) in a 3A carriage, and 9 sections in a Sleeper Class carriage, so the side berths are considerably shorter in SL.

These days, you mostly get places to charge your mobile or laptop(at one end of the carriage), but only 2 places per carriage, so it may be difficult to charge anything.

Sleeper Class just feels 'real', as it should be, you could never in a million years think you're in England when you travel in Sleeper Class, Sleeper Class is just alive, I wish I had a photo with me now (I'll have it in a month or so) of a group of people in Sleeper Class, they was about 8 people in the inside berths (as seats) and they just stretched a blanket out on top of their legs to make a 'table' between them, then they all started playing cards (mostly girls if my memory is correct), it's just so cute, so homely, and you see this kind of thing all the time, hammocks (made from a single sheet) hanging between the upper berths for babies to sleep in, Sleeper Class is just full of life.

This may seem like a really stupid comparison, but it's the only one I can think of, think of the difference between listening to music via your hi-fi speakers, and listening via your walkman headphones, at the start, the headphones sound better because they're right inside your ear, but pretty soon they become tiring, but you could listen via your speakers all day long.

This is kind of how I feel in a Sleeper Class carriage, I can just tilt my head back and face the outside world, and I can watch the world go by for hours, but when I try looking out of a window in AC (even a clear one), it just doesn't feel the same and I have to go and sit by the open door.

It's also about the air (good and bad) coming into the carriage, and all the hawkers, and the kind of Indian people that you just wouldn't otherwise come into contact with.



A smaller percentage, and the standard of English isn't as high as the air con classes, but that's half the fun for me.
Mr.Steven,though 3A has 8 and SL has 9 sections,there is no differnce in the size of the seats as the space is used to pile blankets and bed linens at one side and locker for AC technician at other side in 3A.I have seen the attendand sleeping on the birth attached to the blanket/linen store.In some coaches space is used to store food-items[mostly in Rajdhani trains]instead of AC mech's locker.2A is altogether differnt,it is designed to be AC coach where as SL coach can be coverted in to 3A by very little modifications.This is not to find faults in your post but to correct the facts.Thanks,
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Basic Info about First AC class.

Hi all,

First my issues:-

1. I have never traveled in First AC.
2. I have never done a long distance train journey. Max was some 7 hour journey to Lucknow (from Delhi) in 3AC.

Now my query:-

Me and my girl friend plan to go to Mumbai (From Delhi) on Rajdhani in the last week of June. I am told that Rajdhani is the best train for such long distances. Is it really so?

My other query is about the seat arrangement in a First AC Coach. From what is mentioned in this thread, I understand that there is a mixture of 4 and 2 seat boxes inside the coach and there is no reliable or well defined way to know the seat no that will be allocated. I want to ask if is a certainty that all First AC coaches have this arrangement. How can I assure myself of a 2 seat box for me and my gf for such a long distance. I don't want any overtly talkative person in. Also, just how private or secluded is a 2 seat (or even a 4 seat box)? Would it be possible for me to get a bit romantic with my gf inside the box after bolting the cabin? Any peeks possible? If this was possible then I am prepared to book 4 seats instead of 2 seats but I do not want the TTE to later allot those seats to someone else.

To summarize, my queries are:-
1. Is Rajdhani the best train for a Delhi Mumbai journey?
2. Do all First AC Coaches have this mix of 2/4 seats? Even on popular trains like Rajdhani?
3. Just how private are the cabins? Would I be able to get enough privacy so as to get a bit romantic with my gf?
4. If I book 4 seats instead of 2 and then board the train and use only 2 seats, would I be given a 4 seat box or would the TTE re-allot the 2 unused seats to someone?

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep Shastri
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#39 Apr 23rd, 2011, 06:02
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Hi all.

Btw, I am new here and so apologize for any violations of rules. none of that would be intentional.
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To answer one of these queries, if you book online you have to give the names of the people occupying the berths. Two names doesn't require 4 berths.

Also, what I've found with 1A is that there is often little difference these days between 1A and 2A. That's because when there is a single 1A coach on the train, it is often only a half coach for 1A assengers and the other half is for 2 A passengers.
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Originally Posted by SandSha View Post To summarize, my queries are:-
1. Is Rajdhani the best train for a Delhi Mumbai journey?
2. Do all First AC Coaches have this mix of 2/4 seats? Even on popular trains like Rajdhani?
3. Just how private are the cabins? Would I be able to get enough privacy so as to get a bit romantic with my gf?
4. If I book 4 seats instead of 2 and then board the train and use only 2 seats, would I be given a 4 seat box or would the TTE re-allot the 2 unused seats to someone?
1. If what you want is max time with your GF, then obviously no, because it completes its journey in the fastest time possible among all trains. Otherwise yes of course. Also because its the best it attracts all the self important guys like MP's/Ministers/High ranking officials/Railways officers making trips to Delhi/Mumbai on Sarkari duty. So they get preference for a coupe when needed.
2. Yes. Yes
3. Completely private. No peeking possible. Knocking on the door however can't be prevented.
4. Book 4 or 2. The allotment of coupe (2 seats) or Cabins (4 seats) is done at the last moment. So NO WAY of telling what you will get.
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Originally Posted by alouise View Post To answer one of these queries, if you book online you have to give the names of the people occupying the berths. Two names doesn't require 4 berths.

Also, what I've found with 1A is that there is often little difference these days between 1A and 2A. That's because when there is a single 1A coach on the train, it is often only a half coach for 1A assengers and the other half is for 2 A passengers.
1. I can always book a coupe/cabin on my name. This can be because I want privacy, do not like much populated surroundings, have to carry luggage in volume.

2. None of the Rajdhanis I know, has HA Coach. The ones which has 1A Coaches are all H1, H2 and so on.
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No way of knowing if you'll be assigned a two berth or share a 4 berth with other passengers...

I understand IR does it's best to accomodate couples in two berth coupes, men with men, women with women but what if there are nine couples travelling or in indeed ...Someone has to share.
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Originally Posted by SandSha View Post Hi all,

First my issues:-

1. I have never traveled in First AC.
2. I have never done a long distance train journey. Max was some 7 hour journey to Lucknow (from Delhi) in 3AC.

Now my query:-

Me and my girl friend plan to go to Mumbai (From Delhi) on Rajdhani in the last week of June. I am told that Rajdhani is the best train for such long distances. Is it really so?

My other query is about the seat arrangement in a First AC Coach. From what is mentioned in this thread, I understand that there is a mixture of 4 and 2 seat boxes inside the coach and there is no reliable or well defined way to know the seat no that will be allocated. I want to ask if is a certainty that all First AC coaches have this arrangement. How can I assure myself of a 2 seat box for me and myself for such a long distance. I don't want any overtly talkative person in. Also, just how private or secluded is a 2 seat (or even a 4 seat box)? Would it be possible for me to get a bit romantic with my gf inside the box after bolting the cabin? Any peeks possible? If this was possible then I am prepared to book 4 seats instead of 2 seats but I do not want the TTE to later allot those seats to someone else.

To summarize, my queries are:-
1. Is Rajdhani the best train for a Delhi Mumbai journey?
2. Do all First AC Coaches have this mix of 2/4 seats? Even on popular trains like Rajdhani?
3. Just how private are the cabins? Would I be able to get enough privacy so as to get a bit romantic with my gf?
4. If I book 4 seats instead of 2 and then board the train and use only 2 seats, would I be given a 4 seat box or would the TTE re-allot the 2 unused seats to someone?

Thanks in advance,
Sandeep Shastri
1. JammuTawi-Bandra SF Special/09022, Golden Temple Mail/12904, Paschim Express/22926, Paschim Express/12926, Goa Sampark Kranti Express/12450, Kerala Sampark Kranti Express/12218, Haridwar-LokmanyaTilakT AC SF Express/12172, Punjab Mail/12138
These are some of the trains running from Delhi to Mumbai (Having 1AC)
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2. Yes. If it is a full 1AC Coach, then it has 3 Coupes and 3 Cabins.
If it is a combo of 1AC and 2AC, it has 1 Coupe and 2 Cabins.
The LHB Coaches however has 24 berths (4 Coupes and 4 Cabins)
4. If you book 4 berths, and you are lucky enough to have all the berths in a single cabin, it belongs totally to you. TTE cannot allot them to anyone else.
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Thanks for such a super fast reply. I really did not expect that sort of speed, I thought this thread was inactive since the last post was made in 2009. This thread and this website rocks. 3 cheers.


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Originally Posted by alouise View Post To answer one of these queries, if you book online you have to give the names of the people occupying the berths. Two names doesn't require 4 berths.

To respond to this point, I can always enter two more names of anyone I know or even any random names, if those people do not board it does not mean that my entire reservation will be cancelled.

Thanks for your reply.

Regards,
Sandeep Shastri.

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