Drawback of having wait listed E-ticket compared to conventional one

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Wait list e-tickets get automatically canceled if none of the people listed get confirmed on the day of travel - that's what the rules say.
Does that mean you cannot take a chance and get on to the train, after talking to TTE if there are some seats vacant?

In India, many people who have wait listed conventional ticket talk to TTE if there are any vacancy on the train and subsequently get on it - something gets worked out as some people fail to show up/some seats reserved for tatkal/VIPs/army etc don't get filled.

But if your ticket is automatically canceled - like for e-ticket, does that mean if you get on the train with the hope of finding a vacant seat, you are actually traveling WITHOUT a ticket?

Does anybody have experience ? Did you get told to pay fine for not having a ticket? Or did you get told to pay the face value of the ticket or none at all - if you got a confirmed seat AFTER you got into the train?

Note that this issue is only with e-tickets. For conventional tickets, you have to STILL go and cancel it if waitlisted to get refund. So with conventional ticket, if you get into the train after talking to TTE, you are still having a ticket and you are simply asked to pay the reservation charge.

Is this a drawback of having e-ticket compared to conventional one?
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Dear worldtraveller232,

Wait list e-tickets get automatically canceled if none of the people listed get confirmed on the day of travel - that's what the rules say.

##Correct.

Does that mean you cannot take a chance and get on to the train, after talking to TTE if there are some seats vacant?

##Your assumption is perfectly correct.

Is this a drawback of having e-ticket compared to conventional one?

##To the best of your extent possible, kindly avoid purchasing an E-Ticket with Waitlist Status!!!
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Can someone verify this???

Can some pro really confirm that if you have waitlisted e-tix, you really cannot get into the train and take a chance getting last min canceled seat as your tix are automatically canceled?
Has it happened to anyone? Can you share your experience?
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To repeat, the ticket is automatically canceled and your money is refunded.

You are certainly free to try to get on the train, but you WILL NOT have a paid ticket and you will have no priority for any empty seats. This is because the ticket has been automatically canceled and your money is in the process of being refunded.

The e-ticket printout has no value because, having been automatically canceled, the e-ticket does not appear on the ticket-checker's printout. This is the crux of the matter. With a paper ticket, if you have it, it means that you have not turned it in for a refund, so it is valid for unreserved transportation. With an e-ticket, the printout has cash value only if it appears on the ticket-checker's list.
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Originally Posted by worldtraveler232 View Post Can some pro really confirm ... ...
We do not have any "pros" here because members of the travel professions are strictly banned from joining.

Whether we have any members who work for Indian Railways or not I have no idea --- but you won't get much more "pro" than VSP in terms of understanding of the railways, very often down to the finest detail!
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Dear worldtraveller232,

Can some pro really confirm that if you have waitlisted e-tix, you really cannot get into the train and take a chance getting last min canceled seat as your tix are automatically canceled?

##Your understanding is perfect. If your Waitlisted E-Ticket do not moves either into RAC or Confirmed Status during Charting, you are NOT supposed to enter the train itself. If you do this, you are liable to be treated as Passenger Travelling Without Ticket!!!!
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Well, a query on a related note.

I understand the issue with waitlisted e-tickets. I'm thinking of considering an i-ticket to avoid auto cancellation.

My doubt is, in case my i-ticket does not arrive on time, does the email received on my mail id of any help with the TTR? (In case of e-ticket TTRs are happy with a print out of this email)
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Dear Ganesh,

You MUST have a valid ticket perform journey.
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If you forget to carry a print-out of your e-ticket, then the TTE after verifying the details, will permit you after collection of Rs.50/- but no such provision exists either for normal ticket or for I-Ticket.
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Originally Posted by vsp27759 View Post Dear Ganesh,

You MUST have a valid ticket perform journey.
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If you forget to carry a print-out of your e-ticket, then the TTE after verifying the details, will permit you after collection of Rs.50/- but no such provision exists either for normal ticket or for I-Ticket.
Thanks for the response!
So from what i understand, an i-ticket is treated the exact same way as a normal counter ticket.
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Originally Posted by ganeshs_16 View Post Thanks for the response!
So from what i understand, an i-ticket is treated the exact same way as a normal counter ticket.
##The answer is "yes" in all respects, except when then they are presented for cancellation.

**If you cancel the counter-ticket, you get back your money instantly.

**If you cancel the I-Ticket, the money will be credited into your bank account.
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VSP,

Just continuing the query of Ganesh, can I enter the train with a waitlisted I-ticket ?
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Originally Posted by arunganpath View Post VSP,Just continuing the query of Ganesh, can I enter the train with a waitlisted I-ticket ?

##Strictly speaking, the Waitlisted Ticket Holders (Counter Ticket [or] I-Ticket Holders) are NOT supposed to enter Reserved Coaches.

##In reality, these passengers follow the "Running After the Conductor-system".:-)

##So, I can only say, it is for the passenger to decide!!!
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so, I can enter a general compartment with an i-ticket..
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Dear Arun,

##Please note it should be the "General Compartment" of the same train in which you have waitlisted (**dropped) ticket.!!!
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partially wait list e-ticket

does anyone know what happens when e.g. 2 out of 4 tickets get finally confirmed in AC First class (no RAC allowed in first class)
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