Coach/ berth HA1, A: what does berth 'A' mean? Lower?

#1 Apr 16th, 2010, 20:05
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For tonight, I booked for first A/C in Pandian express for my mother (aged 61). Coach/berth allocation happens only at the last moment. PNR status after chart preparation currently show Coach/berth position to be 'HA1, A'.

I know the HA1 which means the first A/C (half 2nd A/C as well). But, what's the BERTH 'A'? Is it a lower berth in the coach HA1?

If you can reply quick, it would be great as she is going to travel soon and cannot climb to upper berth!

Many thanks in advance,
Parthiban.

PS: I did choose lower berth while reservation.
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I've no answer (someone else no doubt will, patience), but, if it's not a lower berth, let her or those accompanying her speak to the TTE (ticket examiner) and/or her fellow passengers, and I'm sure it will be sorted out to accommodate her.

It would be unthinkable for some more able-bodied person not to be made (or offer by themselves) to switch places with her. Don't fret If they should be reluctant, the TTE will make them to in no uncertain terms. I've seen some people getting a decent scoffing to that effect if necessary. As in you go there to make way for this person, and don't give me any lip.
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Thanks very much machadinha! She also likes to travel, although she travels alone.

Fingers crossed!!
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Really, it shouldn't be an issue.

But, let's hope someone will be in here to tell you what berth that is, to ease your mind
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HA1 is first class coach, and A is the coupe she will be in. As she is a Senior Citizen she will definitely have a lower berth. Whilst the berths are numbered, they frequently only put U (for Upper) and L (for Lower) beside the passenger's name on the chart.

It is unusual even to have the coupe mentioned, however since this was a late booking this may be the reason.

Incidentally HA1 carriage is frequently half 2AC and half First Class. However, the other night I travelled on Mussoorie Express HA1 carriage and the entire carriage was first class.
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A = cabin A, a 4 berth cabin, see HA carriage layout diagram below.

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Incidentally HA1 carriage is frequently half 2AC and half First Class. However, the other night I travelled on Mussoorie Express HA1 carriage and the entire carriage was first class.
Interesting, are you sure it wasn't H1 or HE1? (E=extra, an additional H1 carriage)
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No, absolutely not either of your suggestions! I took particular notice of the number in the jutting out thing in the centre of the carriage, and it was definitely HA1. It struck me because I was used to HA1 being the half and half type as mentioned above - which it is for Mandore Express, and also more recently they have put this carriage onto the Delhi- Jaisalmer InterCity train. So it finally has 1st Class now.

As I boarded the train I was expecting half of it to be 1st Class and then a door, and 2AC. Instead, a long corridor of 1st class coupes!
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Thanks a lot for all your replies! It looks like you guys have too correct info than the railways/govt. itself! :-)

She has now been allocated a lower berth and the coach resembles the diagram posted by Steven (thanks again!). 'A' is obviously the first 4-berth coupe! I update this thread for future reference and help for anyone interested!
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Glad all sorted well, v_parthi! I thought it would be.
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A bit late, nevertheless - in 1AC, the cabins have letter identifications - they are called cabins (since they have a sliding door) - A, B and so on. I think the berths are labeled as LU for left upper - or UL for upper left - I may be wrong here!

HA1 is normally a split 1AC/2AC coach - I used this last year on Falaknuma Exp where they had just introduced 1AC.

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I have never seen labelling on the berths in the carriages but have seen numbers. On the chart however, they only put L or U and you take your pick which side you get yourself.
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Even in the Reservation Charts, the passenger will be accomodated either in a Coupe (2 Berths) or in a Cabin (4 berths) and there will be also an indication as to which berth he has been allotted in the Cabin/Coupe, that is, L-Lower (or) U-Upper.
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So there is a difference between coupe and cabin - I always thought coupe was just another word for cabin, VSP. Strictly speaking then it is for only the two berth 'room'?
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Originally Posted by Aishah View Post So there is a difference between coupe and cabin - I always thought coupe was just another word for cabin, VSP. Strictly speaking then it is for only the two berth 'room'?
##Ofcourse, yes. A Coupe is for Two Passengers and a Cabin is for Four Passengers.

##By the way, if HA1 is regular, then----

**The extra HA will be called as "HA2".

**The extra H Coach (full first AC) will be called "H1".

##Likewise, if H1 is regular, then----

**The extra HA Coach will be called as "HA1".

**The extra H Coach (full first AC) will be called "H2".

##Normally, "HE" will not be used.

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