Circular Journey Rules

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Apr 13th, 2010, 18:12

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Circular Journey Rules

Hi,

Could someone point me to the rule book for circular tickets?
I need answer to these questions:

1. Can one of the station be repeated? Say for going to Jammu, we need to pass through Delhi both on the way ahead and back.

2. How many days of max break can we take at every place? Any rules to calculate that?

3. What has to be the maximum time limit of the journey?? Can I travel through north to south of india and have a ticket valid for almost 2 months?

4. How difficult is it to get a circular ticket? I mean does it requires lot of documentation and do I need to spend lot of time with the Station master?

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#2

Apr 13th, 2010, 19:00

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Details here:
http://www.trainenquiry.com/StaticCo...ney_Rules.aspx

If I am not mistaken I think it is limited to 8 halts in a complete journey. If there is no other choice then one can come back to the same station again.

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Apr 13th, 2010, 19:41

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You have to prepare your travel plan and present the same to the Chief Reservation Supervisor of the PRS Counter (OR) to the concerned officer in the Commercial Branch either in the Divisional Headquarters/Zonal Headquarters.
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Generally, coming back in the travelled route is NOT allowed, but in some exceptional cases, it is allowed.
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The Validity Period is entirely dependant on the distance to be travelled.
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The Validity Period commences on the day when journey commences, but not on the day when first reservation is made.
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A total of 8 Break Journeys are allowed. One Break means Two days of Stay and the day of arrival & the day of departure are NOT counted for this purpose.
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It is advisable to obtain B/J & C/J endorsements from the Station Master where the journey is broken, even though Reservations have been made from that point in the beginning of the journey itself.
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But, strictly speaking, taking these endorsements are NOT required, if onward reservations are from every B/J point.
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The validity of the CJT ends at 23.55 hrs. on the date specified in the Ticket.

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#4

Apr 14th, 2010, 09:49

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Originally Posted by vsp27759

A total of 8 Break Journeys are allowed. One Break means Two days of Stay and the day of arrival & the day of departure are NOT counted for this purpose.

In that case, the max length of the journey would be equal to
(eight breaks) x (max allowed length of stay + one day of boarding + one day of landing)
= 8 x (2 + 1 + 1 ) = 32 days.

Is that right? I am assuming that total distance is more than 3200 kms so that 8 breaks can be taken.

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Apr 14th, 2010, 12:22

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Originally Posted by jyotipg

In that case, the max length of the journey would be equal to
(eight breaks) x (max allowed length of stay + one day of boarding + one day of landing)
= 8 x (2 + 1 + 1 ) = 32 days.

Is that right? I am assuming that total distance is more than 3200 kms so that 8 breaks can be taken.

The validity of the journey, as VSP27759 has pointed out, is entirely dependent on the distance travelled. What you have worked out is the maximum number of days of stay at the B/J points.

No. of days stay and the validity of the CJT are two completely different things.

There are some standard CJT's issued by zonal railways. To see a list of standard CJ's over Northern Railway, pl. see:
http://www.indianrail.gov.in/circular_Journey_Tickets_North ern.html

The above link, given not only the distance, but also the validity of the CJT. You would see that the validity of the CJT is directly proportional to the distance travelled.

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Apr 14th, 2010, 13:59

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Southern Railway - Non Friendly to circular journey

Southern Railways Seems to be mosy unfriendly when it comes to circular ticket.

1. They dont have any standard Circular itinerary at all.

2. The fares provided are only partially telescopic.

No Standard Circular Journey Tickets are issued by Southern Railways, only non-standard Circular Journey Tickets as per the itenary given by the passengers are issued by the Southern Railways. A Circular Journey Ticket is charged for as two single journeys, the length of each single journey being taken as half of the total distance.

If you are are travelling say 8000km on a circular ticket, it would cost Rs. 3500 in 3rd AC.
But in southern railway, the same circular journey would cost you Rs. 4600

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Apr 14th, 2010, 15:56

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Originally Posted by jyotipg

Southern Railways Seems to be mosy unfriendly when it comes to circular ticket.

1. They dont have any standard Circular itinerary at all.

2. The fares provided are only partially telescopic.

No Standard Circular Journey Tickets are issued by Southern Railways, only non-standard Circular Journey Tickets as per the itenary given by the passengers are issued by the Southern Railways. A Circular Journey Ticket is charged for as two single journeys, the length of each single journey being taken as half of the total distance.

If you are are travelling say 8000km on a circular ticket, it would cost Rs. 3500 in 3rd AC.
But in southern railway, the same circular journey would cost you Rs. 4600

I don't know what's happened with Southern Railways, they used to have some great 'standard circular journey routes'.

The following is from the 'Train Fares thread' (click on the 'train info' thread for a link to it).

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A CJT is an extension of the Break Of Journey ticket, with no distance restrictions and more flexible time restrictions, making it the ultimate cheap ticket on Indian Railways.

You are allowed a maximum of 8 breaks of journey and the CJT’s validity is distance based.

You are allowed 3 days for every 400 km.
2000 km = 15 days,
4000 km = 30 days,
6000 km = 45 days,
And so on.

Although there are a number of standard set CJT’s issued by most regional train companies, most of them are unrealistic, Southern Railways are the exception.

You can come up with your own itinerary, breaking your journey at any station for as long as you want (though bear in mind the validity of the ticket).

Safety charge & Super fast charge (if applicable) need only be paid once; Reservation charge is extra for each reservation.

A couple of examples: -

Delhi, Bundi (507 km), Udaipur (249 km), Ajmer (for Pushkar)(304 km), Jodhpur (246 km), Jaisalmer (294 km), Jaipur (607 km), Agra (358 km), Delhi. (200 km).

Total distance = 2765 km = 20 days.

Cost is worked out as follows: -

Total distance is halved, then fare for that distance is doubled, it’s easier to understand if you think of it as a return ticket, then the normal additional charges are added.

Total distance is 2765 km, half of that is 1383 km, the cost for travelling in 2A for 1383 km is Rs1640, Rs1640 X 2 = Rs3280, add 1 X SF charge (if needed) Rs30, plus 1 X safety surcharge of Rs80, plus 9 X reservation fee of Rs25 (Rs225), so total cost of this CJT would be: -

2A = Rs 3615
3A = Rs 2365
SL = Rs 950

Another route, Chennai, Madurai, Varkala, Ernakulam, Udipi, Madgaon, Hospet (Hampi), Mysore, Chennai. (Chargeable distance 3503 km, Validity 26 days) The total cost would be: -

2A = Rs 4155
3A = Rs 2703
SL = Rs 1070

The real advantage of a CJT is when you’re travelling over long distances as the validity increases, the following CJT is an example of this, and just shows how bored I was at work today.

Delhi, New Jalpaiguri, Calcutta, Chennai, Trivandrum, Ahmedabad, Jaipur, Amritsar, Delhi. (Chargeable distance 9246 km, Validity 69 days) The total cost would be: -

2A = Rs 6683
3A = Rs 4207
SL = Rs 1566

The problem with CJT’s is booking them, you have to take your itinerary to the station master, he will go through it and decide if a CJT can be issued, he will most likely not give his decision till the next day, you then go and buy your CJT then go and make the reservations, If your lucky the whole process could take only a couple of hours, but 4 hours is more likely.

A few rules to remember: -

If the class of accommodation you have paid for is not available on a particular train, you have to travel in a lower class or pay the difference to travel in a higher class (if available).

You do not have to travel 500 km before the first break of journey.

You can’t go over the same route twice, unless there is no alternative.

You have to start and finish your trip from the same City. *

There are other rules, to many to mention, if you want to use one of these tickets, reply to this thread with your Itinerary and I’ll work out if it will be allowed.

I think 'actual distances' rather than 'chargeable distances' are used for BOJ tickets and CJT’s.

*Although the rules say that you must start and finish your trip from the same City, nobody will force you to use the last leg of your ticket, although this would mean paying for an additional journey. The additional cost would be small (% wise) and you would get the added bonus of the whole ticket being valid for a longer period.

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Nov 19th, 2010, 08:12

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onward journey telescopic advantage

Dear Stevan

If I book onward journey ticket (for example Khandwa to Varanasi and Varanasi to Jasidih), whether any telescopic advantage will be there in second class sleeper...

If it is, how much it will be. Normal fare is Rs 341 and Rs 217.

thanks and regards.
Ram

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Nov 19th, 2010, 08:12

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onward journey telescopic advantage

Dear Mr Shrinivas

If I book onward journey ticket (for example Khandwa to Varanasi and Varanasi to Jasidih), whether any telescopic advantage will be there in second class sleeper...

If it is, how much it will be. Normal fare is Rs 341 and Rs 217.

thanks and regards.
Ram

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