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Originally Posted by doofus View Post Would be nice to hear how your journey goes on Mandovi in Sleeper.
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Thank you Julie. When are you travelling?
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Late August / September.
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Do you book your reservations on Cleartrip?
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I don't have any bookings yet, doofus, and a friend of mine is going to do it for me anyway. I'm not going near that minefield! There are some very good 'sticky' threads here in the Railways forum on how to book rail tickets from abroad.
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I managed to link IRTC and Cleartrip account. I tested the system by purchasing a cheap journey and it worked. Can only pay credit card as won't accept UK debit cards.
I even got the eticket and reservation and also a txt to my phone.
To test the system further I have yesterday cancelled the ticket. Again all went through no problem with an email and txt from them.
The cost of ticket was 80 rupees. They keep 50 rupees for admin charges etc. So they advised me that 30 rupees will be refunded to my card.
I felt quite good about myself doing all that!
Mind you linking those two accounts ain't easy. Lol
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Hi Steve,
I just read through that link but will need to read again and digest! A couple of questions though please. You said:-
"The carriages regularly fill with extra passengers during the day, the inside lower berth that should sit 3, can often have 5 people sitting there, this is when the side berth seats are wonderful, one seat, one person."
I hope that is DEFINITELY the case in side lower/upper berth. I'd be in big big trouble with wife if we had to budge up for about 5 hours!
You also mentioned about people with waitlisted seats and even those without even reservations make there way into SL. Seems to me that the carriage can get very crowded indeed. I read somewhere this is definitely the situation on the Mandovi Express from CST to Madgaon daytime train. Especially up to Chiplun you said and I read also as far as Ratnagiri.
Is bedding issued out during a daytime train in SL?

I also read that food ordered is given in plastic containers and in AC in stainless steel. I find that difficult to believe but I guess you guys will have the answer to that.

I can fully understand that having the window open and just looking out must be wonderful. But in AC are the windows darkened or are they clean enough to look out from?
Tempting to ask a question about loos in SL when the carriage is packed out with extra passengers!

I guess one can walk around through the carriages and stand at open doorways looking out if one wanted to?

Sorry to be asking so mnay questions! If it was just for me I'd love just mingling etc! But i have to consider my wife now. We are both senior citizens in our late 60's. Thanks Peter
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Originally Posted by doofus View Post You also mentioned about people with waitlisted seats and even those without even reservations make there way into SL. Seems to me that the carriage can get very crowded indeed.
Sometimes, but more so in the north of India.

Crowded, yes, but not in comparison to the unreserved carriages, 5 on an inside berth, but the seat is almost 6 foot wide, and plenty of extra people by the doors, but generally in the south, not worse than that, and if you had side berths, it wouldn't really affect you.

You have to be careful when booking though, there's 9 sets of side berths, 4 or 5 sets are used for RAC, sometimes 6, RAC is too complex to explain here, but it means it's possible to have 3 persons in those 2 seats, most times the 3rd person will sit on the inside berth opposite, but if there's no room, then the (side berth) seats can be made into a lower berth and all 3 sit on the lower berth with feet in the aisle, not a great way to travel, this doesn't happen often though.

You need to book, then check your berth numbers, 7 & 8, 15 & 16, and 71 & 72 are the combinations you want, but also others could be OK if less berths are used for RAC, as long as the numbers fit into the above logic.

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I read somewhere this is definitely the situation on the Mandovi Express from CST to Madgaon daytime train. Especially up to Chiplun you said and I read also as far as Ratnagiri.
I've only done this journey once in Sleeper class during the day, and in the other direction, but I'd be surprised if the carriages were particularly crowded, though a Saturday could well be the busiest day, but there's other trains that could be used that are both considerably cheaper and run a little earlier.

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Is bedding issued out during a daytime train in SL?
No bedding supplied in Sleeper Class, day or night.

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I also read that food ordered is given in plastic containers and in AC in stainless steel. I find that difficult to believe but I guess you guys will have the answer to that.
Only stainless steel in first class air con (1A).

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I can fully understand that having the window open and just looking out must be wonderful. But in AC are the windows darkened or are they clean enough to look out from?
Tempting to ask a question about loos in SL when the carriage is packed out with extra passengers!
Loos can be hit and miss in Sleeper, and they get better the higher class you travel.

The windows in AC classes again can be hit and miss, but it's still more than likely that the window will be tinted slightly, you can still see out of them, but it's really annoying when you stand by the open carriage door and realise the country is a slightly different colour than you've been witnessing through your window.

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I guess one can walk around through the carriages and stand at open doorways looking out if one wanted to?
Yes, but the higher the class, the more likely that train staff and some passengers will suggest you don't stand by the door, normally they say it's for your own safety, and there are some basic rules you'd need to follow before sitting there, because many people have fallen out, safety should be taken seriously.

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Sorry to be asking so mnay questions! If it was just for me I'd love just mingling etc! But i have to consider my wife now. We are both senior citizens in our late 60's. Thanks Peter
Sleeper Class is a class for the backpacker type, maybe like you and me, but I tried taking my Mrs. in Sleeper Class and she hated it, as I'm sure you remember Indian people can sometimes stare a lot, particularly if they're not used to seeing foreign tourists, and my Mrs. really didn't like this.

If you've any concerns about how your Mrs. will cope with Sleeper Class, don't risk it, go for 2A, and choose inside berths (loads of room), or if you choose 3A, go for side berths (same as 2A side berths).

I'm probably the biggest critic of the AC classes, but even I can't deny how comfortable the AC carriages are, and it's rare to find anyone who didn't have a good journey in AC.
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Originally Posted by doofus View Post I even got the eticket and reservation and also a txt to my phone.
To test the system further I have yesterday cancelled the ticket. Again all went through no problem with an email and txt from them.
Very interesting to hear that you got texts from Cleartrip. Did you give them a UK mobile number? Up till now a big part of the problem for people trying to set up accounts from outside India has been the requirement for an Indian mobile number.

You should not have any problems getting the tickets that you need through Cleartrip. You will pay a small surcharge (I think it is 20 rupees) and you will not be able to book until 12.00 IST on day -60.
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I can't really remember how i did it all with cleartrip. Exchanged emails with them and IRTC but got there in the end.
Even when i cancelled a cheap booking I had a text confirmation.
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Steve
Thanks very much indeed for your extremely helpful reply.
I think you're right about my wife too. I shall book AC now.
Just clarification on one point.
You suggested in 2AC we shd book two normal berths rather than the side berths. Any particular reason for that?
If we did as you suggest shd we book two lower berths in your opinion?
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Thank you very much, your effort is greatly appreciated ! I know this is a very old post but it is probably one of the most useful posts on India Mike. I'm one of those travelers who likes to know as much as possible in advance, and thereby reduce the "stress factor" of India train travel. On my last two trips to India I have used this reference and it has been accurate. While prepping for my upcoming trip and traveling first class for the first time I referred to this again.
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