Arrangement of coaches and compartments

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Hi I am new to this site...hope somebody would help me....i am travelling for the first time on Indian railways and have booked the ticket from Jhansi to Gorakhpur on AC 2 tier. My ticket is confirmed but I have no idea about the platform system in the station...How can i know on which platform is a train arriving on a station? How are the coaches arranged? are the AC compartments just next to the engine and are followed by the sleeper class coaches? Please help me...
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You can get a confirmation of the platform only after reaching the station. How ever you will have indicators showing where your particular compartment will stop at that platform.
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Main entrance to most large or medium stations has a electronic board that indicates the Arrival/Departure status of trains and the platform numbers.

Then coach position of the train is either also displayed in another board or announced in English and local language before and during the train arrival/departure. Most platforms have also coach position indicator boards that indicates the train no. and coach no that stops there.

Basically more than enough info if you keep your eyes and ears open.
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The platform is easy to find. The carriage positions may not be marked on all stations: the staff will tell you.

Any porter will convey your luggage and lead exactly to your seat --- at a price, of course!
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Originally Posted by narendra.d View Post Then coach position of the train is either also displayed in another board or announced in English and local language before and during the train arrival/departure. Most platforms have also coach position indicator boards that indicates the train no. and coach no that stops there.
I'm yet to experience such coach-position-indicator boards or announcements. So this practice may not be widespread.

The position indicator signs on platforms are quite common. However, to my experience they don't always work, are often inaccurate, or plain wrong, giving rise to immense confusion.

The best help yet are porters. If you don't need their help for your luggage, you can still ask them about your specific coach, -- for free. Reward them if you are satisfied.
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Pl note the use word either(made bold now for emphasis). Yes not all stations have Electronic display boards at the main entrance showing coach positions or platform boards that give which coach stops there. Where they are not there, an announcement is generally made if it is a station with a reasonable passenger traffic or the chart board has the coach position mentioned by hand on the chart.

I have never experienced the coach position indicators displaying wrong info in my 20+ years of independent train travel. YMMV of course.

If you use a porter, all this is moot. Just tell him your train and coach number and he will put luggage there. Also the OP being Indian, I think must have some idea of negotiating the Indian train and rail station.
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(Indian members, please don't find the following patronising, as with all my posts, they're aimed at foreign tourists who've never travelled on Indian trains)

There are 2 types of coach indicator, and this may lead to some confusion in the way members read some replies.

The first image below is what you'll see on the platform, there will be one alongside each carriage, and it can display the train number, carriage number and class, and it can display all those things in 3 languages, Hindi, local and English, these are the displays that are sometimes wrong, in my experience they are wrong maybe 30% of the time.

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The following image are the displays that are most commonly displayed on foot bridges (in the larger stations) or on the platforms and even in the main entrance halls, these will also switch between the 3 languages mentioned above, and although I've never fully checked that every carriage is where it should be, my carriage has always been where it is displayed, and I can never remember the display being wrong.


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S = Sleeper Class
B = 3-tier air con
A = 2-tier air con
HA = 1st class air con & 2-tier air con combination carriage

PC = politically correct, these carriages were added after numerous complaints from regular travellers about politically correct passengers and their annoying views, if you wish to travel in this carriage you need to click the PC button when purchasing your ticket, the PC carriage is neither AC or non AC, it's berths are neither long or short, and there are no upper berths that may prove difficult for certain people to climb into.

Only joking, PC = Pantry car, a carriage that prepares food.

Look at your ticket, you'll see A1 23 (if a 2A ticket), so you look for carriage A1, then find berth 23 in that carriage.
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please tell me what is the usual tip to give a porter for carrying your bags into the train?

Also what kind of food can be bought at the PC? Does anybody from the PC come to the coaches selling food? I am travelling from Kochi to Udupi by Okha Express and from Udupi to Kochi by Mngla Lksdp, both overnight trains.
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There will be some one coming from the Pantry with the food during breakfast, lunch and dinner time. The type of food will depend from train to train. You should be able to get sandwich, parathas, puri bhaji, rice plate (2 chapatis, 1 dry vegetable, rice, dal, curd), samosas, idli and vadas.
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last night at pipariya station the reservation chart(12321 howrah bombay express) showed the position of AC1 as 19th from engine.The porter ,the enquiry person(very helpful) and the indicator showed 4th from the engine.ifollowed them rather than the chart and voila!the coach was 4th from the engine.(with a 2 minute halt could not have reached the 19th coach)
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PS:all ac coaches are strung together except where a train bifurcates for different destinations
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@faustus: This is possible when there is an loco reversal happening. The engine is attached to the tail end of the train, but the changed coach positions are not updated. For this train it happens at ALD which is quite far and should not be cause for confusion. This has happened to me as well once.
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reg ALD reversal:that is how the enquiry guy cleared my doubt
rgds
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I'm not used to giving tips. What would be the usual tip for a small favour eg carrying bags into hotel rooms or into a train? Thanks...

Also, do sleeper berths (A/C 2 tier) have curtains that can be drawn for privacy?
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For a Hotel Bell boy carrying luggage into your room, in a 3-4 star, INR 10 per bag is a Tip that is fair.

For a Porter at a train station carrying luggage to your train, that is generally 30-60 or more depending on how much luggage you have. That is not a Tip, that is his fee and his only source of income.

AC2 side berths have complete privacy, while other berths have curtains that block view from the aisle/walkway but not from other passengers in the unit.
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Thanks a lot Narendra. That's a very helpful guide. Good that you informed me that the porter's tip is his income. I would have thought that the train company would give him a basic salary.

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